Hi all,

I was reading up on what seems to be the best overall synthetic oil to use for the Titan. It appears to me that Mobil 1 full synthetic seems to be the most mentioned. I just want to know how long in between oil changes can you go if you use a full synthetic? Also, should I be changing my oil filter at every oil change? Is that recommended? I bought some Mobil 1 and the Bosch 3323 filter. Just wanted to get some opinions from more experienced Titan owners before I go do the oil change. Thanks for the help!

Oil causes more arguments than politics & religion. Mobil 1 is most used syn on this
forum................which oil is best?...you will get different opinions.
Oil filters can cause more debates.................in the past some people have
raised concerns about the press drop across some brands of filters.
I don't worry about it & use a Nissan filter.

mobil one is available at every auto parts store and pretty cheap . used mobil one in another truck i had put 212,000 miles on it in 10 years and it still mainted 42 psi oil pressure before i sold it. can't beat sythetic oil.

How often did you change the oil? I've heard you can go 15k on synthetic?

mobil one is available at every auto parts store and pretty cheap . used mobil one in another truck i had put 212,000 miles on it in 10 years and it still mainted 42 psi oil pressure before i sold it. can't beat sythetic oil.

I can't answer your question about when or how often to change your oil, be it synthetic or dino, but may I offer a suggestion. I rec. at least following the 7500 mile service schedule. If anything was to happen the motor the first thing Nissan will ask for is proof of service and milage intervals. I suspect anything over the schedule 2 milage rec, will be difficult to have work completed through Nissan.

Just food for thought.

I change mine with mob 1 syn every 3000 miles. I like to keep it pretty clean. Plus the guy at autozone sells it to me for a bit cheaper than it's priced.

I use Mobil 1 0w-40 every 5000 miles.

From what I learned from a WIX filters corperation rep, Full Synthetic oil can go 10 to 12k and still do it's job. The problem you will have is finding a filter that can handle 10k miles worth of deposits. I have had 2 vehicles that I put 150 plus on, changed oil at 10k but spun a new filter on at 5k and topped off oil. This seemed to work well as I changed a VC cover gasket on my Cavalier at 130 and the interior of the motor was perfect.


I think it would be the filter that would cause a failure from prolonged usage

From what I learned from a WIX filters corperation rep, Full Synthetic oil can go 10 to 12k and still do it's job. The problem you will have is finding a filter that can handle 10k miles worth of deposits. I have had 2 vehicles that I put 150 plus on, changed oil at 10k but spun a new filter on at 5k and topped off oil. This seemed to work well as I changed a VC cover gasket on my Cavalier at 130 and the interior of the motor was perfect.


I think it would be the filter that would cause a failure from prolonged usage

Great post I never would have thought to just change out the filter. Great idea I may start doing that. I might start changing out the filter every 3500 miles or so and keep changing my Mobil 1 Syn out every 7k to 7500.

m4ck

I am most concerned about the small filters during the first 1500 miles.
Judging by the amount of metal I have seen on magnetic oil drain plugs, there
sure is alot of metal in the oil during that period.

How often did you change the oil? I've heard you can go 15k on synthetic?

did oil changes every 3000 to 4000 miles depending on what time of year. if i was towing in the heat of summer 3000 miles, winter went to 4000 miles. will do the titan at 3750 like the manual says for premuim maintance.

I am most concerned about the small filters during the first 1500 miles.
Judging by the amount of metal I have seen on magnetic oil drain plugs, there
sure is alot of metal in the oil during that period.

You have a magnetic drain plug?

Anyway the best answer is to do an oil analysis. I found that the Mobil 1 15,000 mile oil in my truck at 7000 miles looked like it had only 4000 miles of use on it so I now am waiting on a oil analysis from a 9000 mile run using one of the T304 stainless steel media reusable oil filters. Each owner and geographical location is different and has a big impact on the condition of the oil.

[quote=TheSquid]You have a magnetic drain plug?
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I have owned several vehicles with magnetic oil drain plugs.

[quote=TheSquid]You have a magnetic drain plug?
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I have owned several vehicles with magnetic oil drain plugs.

So not on the Titan? I thought maybe they started putting magnetic oil plugs on the Titans and I was going to be jealous. The same way I am of the guys with the coin holders.

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So not on the Titan? I thought maybe they started putting magnetic oil plugs on the Titans and I was going to be jealous. The same way I am of the guys with the coin holders.
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I wish the Titan had one even though it is a scary sight to see all the metal
on the magnetic plug for the first oil change.

I'm running the Mobil 1 regular synthetic with the mobil 1 filter. I've been changing it every 5K since 15K on dino oil. At 5K the oil still looks very good, and I would consider running it longer if the filter were larger. Amsoil makes a much larger filter for the Tacoma/Tundra that screws on in the factory location. Maybe they could do the same for us?

Mitch

If you look deep inside the spec sheets that the companies give the retailers, you can look up the thread size and pitch, overall diameter of the filter, etc., and look for a longer length. Or if you were to call/email the filter manufacturer, they might be able to tell you a longer filter you could use.

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So not on the Titan? I thought maybe they started putting magnetic oil plugs on the Titans and I was going to be jealous. The same way I am of the guys with the coin holders.

WAIT A MINUTE!!!! Who has coin holders? Do I?

There is a magnetic plug on my rear diff :-P

There is a magnetic plug on my rear diff :-P

I got one of them. Speaking of Mobil1 here's that UOA after over 9000 miles.

There is a magnetic plug on my rear diff :-P

I got one of them. Speaking of Mobil1 here's that UOA after over 9000 miles using the Ultra oil filter.

how many members change their oil on the truck. or take it to the dealer for oil change? how long should i wait to change the oil to mobil 1? my titan has only 300 miles

I'm old school so I changed my oil and filter at 500 miles with just a regular 5W30 Dino oil then at 3000 miles I changed to Mobil 1.

It looks like its doing the job just fine.
M4ck
I got one of them. Speaking of Mobil1 here's that UOA after over 9000 miles using the Ultra oil filter.

From what I learned from a WIX filters corperation rep, Full Synthetic oil can go 10 to 12k and still do it's job. The problem you will have is finding a filter that can handle 10k miles worth of deposits. I have had 2 vehicles that I put 150 plus on, changed oil at 10k but spun a new filter on at 5k and topped off oil. This seemed to work well as I changed a VC cover gasket on my Cavalier at 130 and the interior of the motor was perfect.


I think it would be the filter that would cause a failure from prolonged usage

You drove a Cavalier for over 130K? I'm impressed with anything over 50K

It looks like most of the titan population likes Mobil 1. When should I change to the synthetic? My truck is new, so it only has about 355 miles on it and the break in oil. How far should I go on the break in oil and what would be a safe time to change over to the Mobil1? I was using Mobil Clean5000 in my Frontier and never had a problem.

But I am sold on Mobil1, as that was all I used on my 89 GMC full size and it went 350,000+. When I sold her the motor was still going strong! I want the same longitivity out of my Titan as well, so I want to put in the good stuff.

I'm old school so I dumped the Break in oil and filter at 500 miles and put Dino oil back in until I hit the 3000 mile mark. That's when I changed over to the Mobil 1.

It looks like most of the titan population likes Mobil 1. When should I change to the synthetic? My truck is new, so it only has about 355 miles on it and the break in oil. How far should I go on the break in oil and what would be a safe time to change over to the Mobil1? I was using Mobil Clean5000 in my Frontier and never had a problem.

But I am sold on Mobil1, as that was all I used on my 89 GMC full size and it went 350,000+. When I sold her the motor was still going strong! I want the same longitivity out of my Titan as well, so I want to put in the good stuff.

Guys you don't want to put Mobil 1 oil in your truck too soon. This oil really slows down the wear on your engine which is a good thing, but you want your engine to break in and loosen up properly for better performance and fuel mileage. I read a post a while back from someone doing oil analysis that his engine didn't fully break in until 13,000 miles. You don't want to put this oil in until after the motor is fully broken in or it will take that much longer to loosen up. I have always waited till between 30,000 and 50,000 miles before switching to Mobil 1.
James

Guys you don't want to put Mobil 1 oil in your truck too soon. This oil really slows down the wear on your engine which is a good thing, but you want your engine to break in and loosen up properly for better performance and fuel mileage. I read a post a while back from someone doing oil analysis that his engine didn't fully break in until 13,000 miles. You don't want to put this oil in until after the motor is fully broken in or it will take that much longer to loosen up. I have always waited till between 30,000 and 50,000 miles before switching to Mobil 1.
James

Not to start a post war,
but If that was true then why do all these cars and trucks come from the Factory filled with Mobil 1?

Aston Martin
Bentley Amage and Bentley GT
Cadillac CTS, CTS-V, XLR, XLR-V, SRX and STS and STS-V
Chevrolet Corvette C6 and Z06
Chevrolet SSR
Chevrolet TrailBlazer SS
Chrysler 300C SRT-8 and Crossfire SRT-6
Cobalt SS
Dodge Ram SRT-10
Dodge Charger SRT-8, Magnum, and Viper
Jeep Cherokee SRT-8
Mercedes-Benz AMG vehicles
Mercedes SLR
Mitsubishi EVO III
Pontiac GTO
All Porsche vehicles
Saturn Red Line
Viper SRT-10

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Synthetics/Myths.aspx

Could it be that some vehicles are designed to run Mobile1 from the get go, whereas others are designed to be broken in on conventional oil? I have heard what jtrich is saying before from other people, but as theSquid says, there are other cars(usually high performance) vehicles that come with the synthetic from the factory.

I wasn't planning on putting the Mobile1 in until around 15-20,000 anyway. My frontier didn't start to break in until around the 15,000 mark, so I figured it would be the same for the Titan.

I think it comes down to the build quality of the engines that go in those cars. If the engine is machined to a higher standard with closer tolerances it can run synthetic from mile zero. I waited until 15K on the Titan to switch.

Mitch

Engines coming from the factory with Mobil 1 is nothing new. My 1995 Corvette had it & I
doubt that the engine was fitted to closer tolerances than any other 350 Chevy.
But, I swap to Mobil 1 at about 1500 miles if the vehicle does not come from the
factory with Mobil 1.

Not to start a post war,
but If that was true then why do all these cars and trucks come from the Factory filled with Mobil 1?

Aston Martin
Bentley Amage and Bentley GT
Cadillac CTS, CTS-V, XLR, XLR-V, SRX and STS and STS-V
Chevrolet Corvette C6 and Z06
Chevrolet SSR
Chevrolet TrailBlazer SS
Chrysler 300C SRT-8 and Crossfire SRT-6
Cobalt SS
Dodge Ram SRT-10
Dodge Charger SRT-8, Magnum, and Viper
Jeep Cherokee SRT-8
Mercedes-Benz AMG vehicles
Mercedes SLR
Mitsubishi EVO III
Pontiac GTO
All Porsche vehicles
Saturn Red Line
Viper SRT-10

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Synthetics/Myths.aspx

I'm not saying that it will hurt your engine, it just takes longer for the engine to loosen up. It's all personal preference. When building a race engine the bearings on the crank are usually set with more clearance than a general rebuild because they want the engine loose right away instead of having to break it in.
James

I got my first oil change at the dealer at 1200 miles since it was free. They put Castrol Syntec in there. Is that ok? Should I switch back to dino oil when I do the next oil change myself?

I got my first oil change at the dealer at 1200 miles since it was free. They put Castrol Syntec in there. Is that ok? Should I switch back to dino oil when I do the next oil change myself?

Not to worry hwyking, switching to synthetic either at 50 miles or 10000 miles is entirely up to the owner. I've always switched my vehicles over to synthetics anywhere from 50 miles to 500 miles, and not once did I ever have problems showing up in my oil samples. Generally the rule of thumb is, do whatever you're comfortable with and gives you that nice warm fuzzy feeling because you're not going to harm your engine by putting in synthetics too early.

not to be stupid but, (and there's always a but) how do ya know when your engine is broken in? I'm @ 16k and w/the s/c just done I'm switching on next oil change, Prob to mobil 1. Still going to change it every 3k.

Not to worry hwyking, switching to synthetic either at 50 miles or 10000 miles is entirely up to the owner. I've always switched my vehicles over to synthetics anywhere from 50 miles to 500 miles, and not once did I ever have problems showing up in my oil samples. Generally the rule of thumb is, do whatever you're comfortable with and gives you that nice warm fuzzy feeling because you're not going to harm your engine by putting in synthetics too early.

thanks! I'm planning on switching over to Mobil 1 when I start doing it myself.

not to be stupid but, (and there's always a but) how do ya know when your engine is broken in? I'm @ 16k and w/the s/c just done I'm switching on next oil change, Prob to mobil 1. Still going to change it every 3k.

Hi Jerdog,

Most are broken-in before they even leave the car lots. If you take a look at the numerous oil samples that have been done, none have shown any kind of blow-by issues from an engine that isn't broken-in or hasn't been "properly" broken-in, regardless of the miles on it. So no worries and you're surely not stupid to ask, if I didn't have oil samples to back up my statements, I wouldn't know either. So definitely use a good quality full synthetic oil with that blown Titan of yours and run the piss out of her......

WIll DO !!!

im using chevron 10-30 and have one of the best oil samples to date...even beating out the mobil syn...i change every 4,000 and im changing my oil for $12-15 including filter vs $35-45 depending on brand. its not that im cheap or dont have money, i just see no reason to spend more money when the results im getting are hard to duplicate using syn...if im wrong i know ill hear it...lol

I use Mobil 1 for one reason and one reason only. Extended service life. This change will be at the 10,500 mile mark. I really wish that I could go that far with a Dino oil because I would. (I have Mods I could use the saved money for.) HAHAHA

im using chevron 10-30 and have one of the best oil samples to date...even beating out the mobil syn...i change every 4,000 and im changing my oil for $12-15 including filter vs $35-45 depending on brand. its not that im cheap or dont have money, i just see no reason to spend more money when the results im getting are hard to duplicate using syn...if im wrong i know ill hear it...lol

Hi John,

Of course you're not wrong using the chevron, you've got excellent oil samples to back it up. My only concern is the low viscosity your last sample showed. I'm not so sure it was all due to fuel because your flashpoint wasn't really all that low. I would speculate that the higher cylinder pressures you're getting from the supercharger are shearing that oil, and the only saving grace at this point is that you're changing it before the wear numbers start to go up. If your next sample shows good wear numbers, REALLY low viscosity, and a fuel level less then 0.5%, then I surely would stick to quick changes like you're doing now. Perhaps a run of synthetic for the same miles would be interesting to see. I doubt it would shear as much as the chevron in that supercharged beast you've got there, and you would probably be able to at least double your mileage use of it to help keep costs down.

You are interested in a larger capacity oil filter?

You might do a search on Honeykeepers post of the AMSOIL filter relocation unit. This unit also allows the use of larger filters and the ones sold by JC Whitney, also allow the use of two filters.

The relocation unit puts a blanking manifold on the engine block and uses two rubber hoses to a remote location (on the fender or fire wall) where the filter is then mounted.

If you want larger capacity, then the two larger filters should do the job.

Ralph

Ralph,

I am definately interested in more filtration. I seem to remember that Amsoil used to market a dual filter setup that had a course filter and a very fine filter, and that on extremely long intervals (25K miles) you would change the fine particle filter about every 12.5K miles. The only thing I don't like about relocation kits is that their hoses are one more potential failure point.

I'm going to test my oil on the next change to get a baseline and then consider pushing the intervals out further. I've been running the standard M1 synthetic with the M1 filter to 5K miles. This time around I used the M1 15,000 mile oil and the M1 filter. I figure I'll run it to 7500 miles before the next change. With the amount I drive the standard 3K oil change point comes up almost monthly...

Thanks,

Mitch

Ralph,

I am definately interested in more filtration. I seem to remember that Amsoil used to market a dual filter setup that had a course filter and a very fine filter, and that on extremely long intervals (25K miles) you would change the fine particle filter about every 12.5K miles. The only thing I don't like about relocation kits is that their hoses are one more potential failure point.

I'm going to test my oil on the next change to get a baseline and then consider pushing the intervals out further. I've been running the standard M1 synthetic with the M1 filter to 5K miles. This time around I used the M1 15,000 mile oil and the M1 filter. I figure I'll run it to 7500 miles before the next change. With the amount I drive the standard 3K oil change point comes up almost monthly...

Thanks,

Mitch

Then you should be find. I also drive 3000 miles a month and just had an analysis done with that oil after over 9000 miles. Post number 20 on page 2 of this thread has the Analysis. The silicone was high because I didn't get all the clips latched when I had checked the air filter. I discovered this when I installed the new Fram Boost so it was expected.

http://www.clubtitan.org/forums/showpost.php?p=171486&postcount=20

Amsoil does make a 25,000 mile oil filter for the Titan. Its a factory fit, not one of those bypass system things. Runs about $15.00. In the fit guide they also have a super duty filter but I couldn't find the specific part number on their online store to get any details, it may have been discontinued. I'm not a dealer or anything, just thought I would chime in as I am thinking about running Amsoil and saw the part.

did u no u could void ur warrenty using syntheic oil

rossi....shut up...roflmao...j/k

About Dawgs post...has anyone heard about the warranty being voided by simply using synthetic oil? To be quite honest, I don't think that the manufacuter can void the warranty just by changing to a different oil?

I told the stealership what I was running and what my change intervals were. The service writer said many of his customers were doing the same thing. The only fluid he told me to leave factory was the J spec ATF due to warranty and performance issues.

Mitch

i researched syn. oil and supposedly amsoil is the best and u can go like 25000 miles between drains with a filter change every so often like 7500 miles and top it off with oil.. its supposed to be better than mobil one but not as easy to find..

i researched syn. oil and supposedly amsoil is the best and u can go like 25000 miles between drains with a filter change every so often like 7500 miles and top it off with oil.. its supposed to be better than mobil one but not as easy to find..

Actually it's very easy to find. Call toll free and it's delivered to the door. And a manufacturer can NOT void your warranty for using synthetic oil. And if you have a failure using guaranteed extended drain intervals they have to prove the failure was a result of the oil. If proof exists then the oil manufacturer will pick up the tab. At least in the case of Amsoil that is how it works.

i researched syn. oil and supposedly amsoil is the best and u can go like 25000 miles between drains with a filter change every so often like 7500 miles and top it off with oil.. its supposed to be better than mobil one but not as easy to find..

Since that's what Amsoil says about their own oil but they've never allowed an independent Lab to test it, how do you now it's truly the best? Just curious.

Like politics and religion...

amsoil is ok. but i like my royal purple much better.i run amsoil in my bike and i run the royal in the car and truck

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So not on the Titan? I thought maybe they started putting magnetic oil plugs on the Titans and I was going to be jealous. The same way I am of the guys with the coin holders.[/QUOTE]


Who has coin holders??? I thought thats what the little cut outs on the dash by the A-pillars are for!!!

back on topic mobil 1 every 5000-6000 with a filter change...

Hi All,

Just got our power back this a.m. Had a wicked strom Tuesday night and WOW!! I had marble sized hail hitting my Titan! Thank God no damage.

I use Amsoil in all of our vehicles and have never had a problem. I switched over to the Amsoil Series 3000 0W-30 and their new EAo filter. The Super Duty line is no longer being made in favor of the new EAo line.

When I did my first oil change I was somewhat shocked by the size of the filter. My wife's CRV filter is bigger.

I think I will be switching over to the Dual ByPass filter system.

One thing I did like about the filter, well not so much the filter but the diverting ramp that catched the oil and directs out the opening. I have the Off Road package and skid plates. Pretty Neat.

I am concerned about the size of the filter although I do change them at 5k as some other do but the iol goes to 10k.

Thanks,

Steve