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awww that sucks. its only for the titans "Without" the E-Lock.

Which titans have the E-Lock?

Which titans have the E-Lock?
Any off road package Titan about mid way through the first model year. You would have a button for it if you have it.

I believe Austin was able to adapt the True Trac with the E-Locker. I think he ground down the E-Locker device so that the True Trac would fit.

I believe Austin was able to adapt the True Trac with the E-Locker. I think he ground down the E-Locker device so that the True Trac would fit.
That is some what true. If I remember correctly he had to shim the axcel shafts and remove the e-locker sensor.

Hello all. I'm brand new here but I know a bit about your trucks. I worked with Austin to get our new Truetrac working for your trucks.
Austin gave us important feedback that allowed us to build the Nissan Titan Truetrac to fit both std diffs and electric locker equipped axles.
While different axles are used between the 2 applications, length is the only difference. We've made the internals of the unit so that your factory axles will fit regardless of the model you have.

Scott

Thanks for that good info, Scott.

Thanks for stopping by and giving us info. Scott. Welcome to CT.

thanks scott, whats the hp and tq amount these trutracs will hold???

This is the message I got from a rep. from 4x4parts reguarding the TruTrac

"Hello Joey,

Are you going to remove e-lock and replace it with true trac?
If we can be of any further assistance or you wish to order, call or you can order on line at www.4x4parts.com

You can reach us at 954-971-3510 or FAX 954-971-3770

Thank you

Mike V.
Automotive Customizers
1700 NW 22 Court Unit #2.
Pompano Beach FL 33069 "

Got Titan-
By reading your sig I understand why you asked about the strength of the Truetrac.
The Titan Truetrac is rated for 6,300 ft lbs. of maximum continuous torque. As a reference, the more pairs of pinions a Truetrac has, the stronger the unit. The Titan Truetrac has 4 pairs. The GM 8.5/8.6 version used in Tahoes/Yukons/Suburbans and many others has 3 pairs. Since our redesign completed 3 years ago using the same basic design now used in the Titan, we have had exactly ZERO failures in the field. We have sold 1,000's of the 8.5/8.6 model without issue and the Titan version is stronger yet. I don't expect any strength issues with the Titan Truetrac.
Horsepower and torque are only really valid concerns if you can harness the power. Doing a 100 ft smokey burnout isn't nearly as stressful to the rear end as using slicks and a trans brake for drag racing. We have guys running in the low 11's using Truetracs in Mustangs using slicks and Trans brakes. Their Truetrac is similar in size but, like the GM unit, only has 3 pairs of pinions.

Scott

Got Titan-
I don't expect any strength issues with the Titan Truetrac.
Horsepower and torque are only really valid concerns if you can harness the power. Doing a 100 ft smokey burnout isn't nearly as stressful to the rear end as using slicks and a trans brake for drag racing. We have guys running in the low 11's using Truetracs in Mustangs using slicks and Trans brakes. Their Truetrac is similar in size but, like the GM unit, only has 3 pairs of pinions.

Scott
Uh OH !!!!

John's gonna be bidding on some drag slicks and a trans brake.....Oh nevermind he's probably already ordered them LOL

Just kidding John Thats good news for you though have you already ordered one of these bad boys???? I'd love to see a video of you doing a burnout with this set up!!!

That is very nice to hear!

First of all, welcome to the club! Secondly, I know what the second big mod from now will be.

Well guy and gals........if you have the funds you need to get the tru-trac
I have mine in and this is how the truck should come from the factory....Just be carfull from a stop around a corner the first time i hit her full throttle the azz tried to pass me and a had to change my underoo's when i got home...

I am going to have to relearn some driving habbits now,,,,

very cool 04, mines in the mail somewhere? how much did it cost for the install 04? thanks, john

so as far as the rear ends going out on our trucks...................would using this trutrac eliminate this problem? im kind of confused as to what exactly goes out on the rear ends of our trucks.

I paid my shop 750.00 but this is the second time they did the install, I was the poor soul who got the first one done back in late october and the axles did not fit, so a gave them a few bucks for the hassle....they said it should only be 200.00 for install at any good shop....


i was hoping detroit would have stepped up and helped me out since i had to be the test subject.....

so as far as the rear ends going out on our trucks...................would using this trutrac eliminate this problem? im kind of confused as to what exactly goes out on the rear ends of our trucks.

It takes away the weak link ie;the spiders and side gears....

the spider gears are going and this will fix the problem FOREVER!!

really sucks that detroit didnt help you out 04, i would have not took no as an answer. they should have taken care of you for your trouble! detroit, dont drop the ball on the little guy that makes your company....give 04 some credit or a refund for all the hassle you caused!!!

Well my Detroit True-Trak arrived yesterday! Now I just need to make an appointment to have it installed. Perhaps next week or shortly thereafter.

Ralph

Finally both sides can spin. Time for Drifting!

Help me out, why would you need a true trac if you have a E locker?

glenn

Help me out, why would you need a true trac if you have a E locker?

glenn
You can only use E-locker on 4 Lo or certain application. The True Trac is automatic, it's there when you need it with out having to hit any kinda switch or anything.

Its alot more like a real posi/locker hybrid as far as I can tell kinda the best of both worlds and work good with abls.

ordered my tru trac today from westcost diff got it for 550, now I just have to look for a shop in oklahoma to install it time for some 50ft burnouts.

Help me out, why would you need a true trac if you have a E locker?

glenn


Love that pic in your sig...good thing it had a bullbar...

Otherwise you wouldn't have been able to just buff that out.

Love that pic in your sig...good thing it had a bullbar...

Otherwise you wouldn't have been able to just buff that out.


LMAO!! Yes I was very lucky.

You can only use E-locker on 4 Lo or certain application. The True Trac is automatic, it's there when you need it with out having to hit any kinda switch or anything.

Is there not a why to override the Elock to work out side of just LO?

Is there not a why to override the Elock to work out side of just LO?
Austin did the mod that allow for E-lock to work in outside of 4Lo, but you have to be very careful on how you're going to use it at higher rate of speed.

Austin did the mod that allow for E-lock to work in outside of 4Lo, but you have to be very careful on how you're going to use it at higher rate of speed.
And dry pavement at any rate of speed. Without the ability of the ground below you to allow the wheels to slip, you will end up breaking something. The elock is defenitly for slippery surfaces only.

I run the ARB in my Bronco on the street sometimes just to be obnoxious. There's nothing more satisfying then driving around the vallet loop at the rich people's mall with both of the lockers on and the front hubs locked. The tires maintain a steady chirping sound as they slip on the pavement, but I'm running in first gear and at idle. I haven't broken anything yet, with the Detroit locker it used to have or the ARB's now. It is hell on tires though.

Mitch

And dry pavement at any rate of speed. Without the ability of the ground below you to allow the wheels to slip, you will end up breaking something. The elock is defenitly for slippery surfaces only.

I was thinking more pulling a boat out of the water in 2 hi with the rear locked.

Can anyone tell me how to do the mod? Austin?

I am getting this installed on the 14th (Wed) I got mine from West Coast. I also purchased it to help with pulling my boat out.

I was thinking more pulling a boat out of the water in 2 hi with the rear locked.

Can anyone tell me how to do the mod? Austin?
Here's his website. Goodluck
http://austinm.net/titan/elock.html

so, can you still use the e-lock in 4-lo with the tru trac? Sometimes when out I would like to have it on before the tires start to slip. So at full throtle I have the pass tire spin this trans the power to both sides so both will spin like a possi but in normal driving its open ? Is this right ? Thanks Jer

so, can you still use the e-lock in 4-lo with the tru trac? Sometimes when out I would like to have it on before the tires start to slip. So at full throtle I have the pass tire spin this trans the power to both sides so both will spin like a possi but in normal driving its open ? Is this right ? Thanks Jer
As of now only the non e-lock True Trac is avaiable.

I thought that they had one available for both? Post #7 on this thread says that they have both or am I reading it wrong.

I thought that they had one available for both? Post #7 on this thread says that they have both or am I reading it wrong.
As I understand it (I may be wrong), the Tru Trac unit replaces the entire carrier unit in the diff. The e-locker and non e-locker diffs have different axle lengths. The first Tru Trac units would accept only one axle length. They now will accept either axle length, but the e-locker is replaced by the Tru Trac.
Maybe Tru Trac will confirm this.

That is the way that I understand it also. Which is why I wanted to make certain that I did not read post #7 wrong in saying that it would work on both.

The E-lock differential unit is completely removed from the truck when the tru trac is installed. This means you will no longer be able to use the E-lock because it won't be there.

Mitch

I understand what this will do for us on the street....but how will the subtraciton of the E-lock affect us off road?

That is the way that I understand it also. Which is why I wanted to make certain that I did not read post #7 wrong in saying that it would work on both.
What he is saying in post #7 is that the Tru Trac will work in either the e-lock or non e-lock axle housing, but the e-lock function will be gone after the installation of the Tru Track. The e-lock assembly is replaced by the Tru Track.

OK, I got it now. I have told you guys before that I can be a complete idiot at times so I work hard to prove it every now and then. LOL

So, regardless of whether we have the e-locker or not, it will work which is what I understood originally.

2 more ?s than I'll stop, maybe. Is the gearing the same ie can I get it with big tow gears? I blew out 2 right axle seals before the 1st 44 scattered. They did a complete rearend with new axles should I be worried?

The Tru Trac doesn't come with a ring gear and pinion; you use your existing ones.

OK I thought I got it; lost again. Just look me in the eyes and say "Jerry buy the dam thing." I thought the unit was a 4 pinion set up and the dana 44 wasn't. Where is rear ends 101 ? Everthing is ez I just make it difficult, my gift ???

We are talking about two different pinion gears. There is the ring gear and pinion set, then there are the axle pinions. We used to call those the spider gears and the side gears. The side gears attach to the axle shafts, and the spider gears drive them from the carrier where they are mounted. Now Nissan and others are calling the spider gears pinions also.
The Tru Trac has a different design from the Dana carrier, and replaces the weak Dana spider gears with their carrier unit. The end result is a very strong limited slip unit.

Someone save me the trouble of looking this up please....

Is the True Trac like a detroit, only engaging when torque is applied, but like an open diff when say cruising around corners and such, thus giving it good "streetability".

Is anyone thing of taking the replaced e-loc and installing it in the front diff?

Also if my E-loc is replaced am I gonna have a dash light stay on?

Gotcha ya, Thanks !!!

The Detroit Truetrac was the first gear type limited slip differential in the industry. The patented design of parallel axis planetary helical gears provide a quiet, automatic splitting of torque. Power transfer goes literally unnoticed by the driver - even in front wheel drive axles.

The Detroit Truetrac performs like an open differential under normal driving conditions and automatically transfers torque to the wheel with better traction when ground conditions warrant. The limited slip responds instantly to torque feedback, anytime, at any speed.

I'm in !!!!!! Will order tom morn.

This item WILL be mine shortly... MuH HAHahAha.... *sigh* I'll need a second job to support my habits soon.