Ok , which is better The Volant CAI or the K&N intake? I see the Volant is popular here on the forums. Also i see it seems to power down on the low end of the power band, if you dont have an exhaust on also. Does the K&N perform good with out an exhaust on. Also with the CAI does the service engine light come on? Thanks!

I bought the Volant cuz it was a sealed box. The K&N was open on the top with a vinyl seal that sits against the hood. I don't know that it makes that much difference. But that's why I bought what I did.

Noe of the aftermarket intakes are going to perform well on the low end without the exhaust. I like the Volant for it being a sealed system, drawing only outside air.

Noe of the aftermarket intakes are going to perform well on the low end without the exhaust. I like the Volant for it being a sealed system, drawing only outside air.

That is correct and it really doesn't matter which one you get..I'm putting the K&N on today but as with my Z, expect the tourque curve to change...it'll dip below stock at about 3000rpm then climnb again at about 3300 rpm to a little above stock and hold the curve there after at a litle above stock...anyway here's another thing ther is no way and I mean no way anyone can say K&N vs. AEM vs. Volant has a winner there all pretty much the same as far as performance and as far as anyone telling you (I've seen it before here) that heat will be a problem with metal vs plastic...the answer is aboslutley not...the air moves so quick through there that the heat transfer is so mininmal AND NO ITS NOT LIKE HOW THE RADIATOR AND HEAT ELEMNT WORK!...If you want an honest calc..amybe Ill bereak out my old ME 412 book and do a quickie...but I'm I nuke what would I know about heat transfer?

Airaid seems to have better filtration than Volant and K&N. In terms of HP gain the Volant and K&N and Airaid all run neck in neck.

Volant has a true CAI accessory that is not offered by any other companies! Retains the stock air box look.

A highperformance filter should not have to sacrifice filtration capabilities. This should not be overlooked if one is going to keep their Titan for years to come. I will be purchaing a Airaid!

Airaid seems to have better filtration than Volant and K&N. In terms of HP gain the Volant and K&N and Airaid all run neck in neck.

Volant has a true CAI accessory that is not offered by any other companies! Retains the stock air box look.

A highperformance filter should not have to sacrifice filtration capabilities. This should not be overlooked if one is going to keep their Titan for years to come. I will be purchaing a Airaid!

Ah yes sorry I forgot about Airraid...but again It's really your preference...

But the compbo of new exhaust will take away taht little dip in tourqe completely

Noe of the aftermarket intakes are going to perform well on the low end without the exhaust. I like the Volant for it being a sealed system, drawing only outside air.

That is correct and it really doesn't matter which one you get..I'm putting the K&N on today but as with my Z, expect the tourque curve to change...it'll dip below stock at about 3000rpm then climnb again at about 3300 rpm to a little above stock and hold the curve there after at a litle above stock...anyway here's another thing ther is no way and I mean no way anyone can say K&N vs. AEM vs. Volant has a winner there all pretty much the same as far as performance and as far as anyone telling you (I've seen it before here) that heat will be a problem with metal vs plastic...the answer is aboslutley not...the air moves so quick through there that the heat transfer is so mininmal AND NO ITS NOT LIKE HOW THE RADIATOR AND HEAT ELEMNT WORK!...If you want an honest calc..amybe Ill bereak out my old ME 412 book and do a quickie...but I'm I nuke what would I know about heat transfer?

Linc, your the second person (first was M95Roadster) who has made the arguement about the air moving so fast through the tube it couldn't possibly heat up significant enough to hinder power. I have a tendancy to agree with you! Not to mention, I just can't imagine a company like AEM using an aluminum tube if it hindered the true potential (power increases) of the intake. Also, (I'm not an engineer) but the comparison to the heater core on a car is just silly to me. A heater core is constructed in such a way as to retain heat (not to mention 200 degree coolant running through it) and is confined in a small area to aid in that goal! The aluminum intake tube seems incapable of heating air significantly considering the velocity of the air flowing through it and the short distance of the tube. Now, the only part I am not convinced of is whether or not the sealed box of the Volant will suck colder air to begin with (from the fender) compared to the AEM, K&N, and AirRaid designs which suck from the engine compartment???

OK, all sounds good , what about check engine light , does anyone have this come on with their CAI and/or a aftermarket exhaust?

Also, do all the Volant CAI come with the ram air black tube? On ebay the picture doesnt show it?

OK, all sounds good , what about check engine light , does anyone have this come on with their CAI and/or a aftermarket exhaust?

Several who have installed the K&N CAI have reported SES lights coming on. I don't know of anyone who has had their SES light come on with the Volant.

You'll get the SES light with an aftermarket exhaust if you have a leak, other then that it will not come on.

Also, do all the Volant CAI come with the ram air black tube? On ebay the picture doesnt show it?

The ram air tube is extra with the Volant, I think they run about $125

OK, all sounds good , what about check engine light , does anyone have this come on with their CAI and/or a aftermarket exhaust?

Several who have installed the K&N CAI have reported SES lights coming on. I don't know of anyone who has had their SES light come on with the Volant.

You'll get the SES light with an aftermarket exhaust if you have a leak, other then that it will not come on.Great info ! Thanks for the input!

Also, do all the Volant CAI come with the ram air black tube? On ebay the picture doesnt show it?

The ram air tube is extra with the Volant, I think they run about $125Does the tube make a difference in power gains, basically is it worth the extra $ ? Does anyone have the ram air tube , here on the forums?

Also, do all the Volant CAI come with the ram air black tube? On ebay the picture doesnt show it?

The ram air tube is extra with the Volant, I think they run about $125Does the tube make a difference in power gains, basically is it worth the extra $ ? Does anyone have the ram air tube , here on the forums?

Bixll has one but I don't think he's installed it yet. I'm personally a little leery of them due to water uptake. It pours like hell here in GA and it causes spectacular splashes through the rivers that come with it. I'm just worried about sucking some of that water in and hydro-locking the engine.

I bought the ram tube but have not installed it yet. It pulls in air from behind the drivers side tow hook. I don't know if it will fit yet because of a post saying volant is looking for a titan to design the ram tube for 4X4. But the topic of fit did not come up at the time of order. It's not like the tow hook opening is scraping on the ground it's over a foot in the air and I can't say for certain but I'd bet that if the ram air tube was under water the intake would pull air from the fender well opening only instead of the tube because it would be the path of least resistance. The tube may add some extra air to the filter box at higher speeds but nothing just putting around town. A dyno wont show any increase because the vehicle is stationary. Maybe feed a 3/4 inch air line into the opening fed by a 200 gallon compressor at 150 psi and you might see an increase on the dyno.

I bought the ram tube but have not installed it yet. It pulls in air from behind the drivers side tow hook. I don't know if it will fit yet because of a post saying volant is looking for a titan to design the ram tube for 4X4. But the topic of fit did not come up at the time of order. It's not like the tow hook opening is scraping on the ground it's over a foot in the air and I can't say for certain but I'd bet that if the ram air tube was under water the intake would pull air from the fender well opening only instead of the tube because it would be the path of least resistance. The tube may add some extra air to the filter box at higher speeds but nothing just putting around town. A dyno wont show any increase because the vehicle is stationary. Maybe feed a 3/4 inch air line into the opening fed by a 200 gallon compressor at 150 psi and you might see an increase on the dyno.How much was the tube itself $125?

OK, all sounds good , what about check engine light , does anyone have this come on with their CAI and/or a aftermarket exhaust?

Several who have installed the K&N CAI have reported SES lights coming on. I don't know of anyone who has had their SES light come on with the Volant.

You'll get the SES light with an aftermarket exhaust if you have a leak, other then that it will not come on.

Most of the stories I have heard of the SES light coming on after an intake install seem to be related to the filter being over oiled and the MAF getting saturated. May or may not be the case.

I put the K&N on yesterday took all of about 30 min nice growl, and not really a noticeable loss under 3300rpm which is great...polished aluminum tube which is nice and one huge air filter....we'll see hw the Borla plays wit it...should be sweet

I put the K&N on yesterday took all of about 30 min nice growl, and not really a noticeable loss under 3300rpm which is great...polished aluminum tube which is nice and one huge air filter....we'll see hw the Borla plays wit it...should be sweet
You like it now, your gonna love it with the exhaust!

Noe of the aftermarket intakes are going to perform well on the low end without the exhaust. I like the Volant for it being a sealed system, drawing only outside air.

That is correct and it really doesn't matter which one you get..I'm putting the K&N on today but as with my Z, expect the tourque curve to change...it'll dip below stock at about 3000rpm then climnb again at about 3300 rpm to a little above stock and hold the curve there after at a litle above stock...anyway here's another thing ther is no way and I mean no way anyone can say K&N vs. AEM vs. Volant has a winner there all pretty much the same as far as performance and as far as anyone telling you (I've seen it before here) that heat will be a problem with metal vs plastic...the answer is aboslutley not...the air moves so quick through there that the heat transfer is so mininmal AND NO ITS NOT LIKE HOW THE RADIATOR AND HEAT ELEMNT WORK!...If you want an honest calc..amybe Ill bereak out my old ME 412 book and do a quickie...but I'm I nuke what would I know about heat transfer?

Linc, your the second person (first was M95Roadster) who has made the arguement about the air moving so fast through the tube it couldn't possibly heat up significant enough to hinder power. I have a tendancy to agree with you! Not to mention, I just can't imagine a company like AEM using an aluminum tube if it hindered the true potential (power increases) of the intake. Also, (I'm not an engineer) but the comparison to the heater core on a car is just silly to me. A heater core is constructed in such a way as to retain heat (not to mention 200 degree coolant running through it) and is confined in a small area to aid in that goal! The aluminum intake tube seems incapable of heating air significantly considering the velocity of the air flowing through it and the short distance of the tube. Now, the only part I am not convinced of is whether or not the sealed box of the Volant will suck colder air to begin with (from the fender) compared to the AEM, K&N, and AirRaid designs which suck from the engine compartment???

Well its the absolute truth, like I said I'm a Nuke Eng by trade (Management now) and my budy is a ME adn the Other an EE its absolutely ridculous to thin that heat will have any effect and also I asked about the VOlant SCoop since my buddies specialty is fluid mechanics and he said it will get you nothing and he emphasized nothing...now thats not to say that the volant insnt a good intake system, because it certainly is, but I would think twice about dropping the money on the scoop for it..again

Here''s the deal...as far as intakes BUY WHAT YOU WANT THERE ALL PRETTY MUCH THE SAME!

I put the K&N on yesterday took all of about 30 min nice growl, and not really a noticeable loss under 3300rpm which is great...polished aluminum tube which is nice and one huge air filter....we'll see hw the Borla plays wit it...should be sweetPlease keep us posted!

Noe of the aftermarket intakes are going to perform well on the low end without the exhaust. I like the Volant for it being a sealed system, drawing only outside air.

That is correct and it really doesn't matter which one you get..I'm putting the K&N on today but as with my Z, expect the tourque curve to change...it'll dip below stock at about 3000rpm then climnb again at about 3300 rpm to a little above stock and hold the curve there after at a litle above stock...anyway here's another thing ther is no way and I mean no way anyone can say K&N vs. AEM vs. Volant has a winner there all pretty much the same as far as performance and as far as anyone telling you (I've seen it before here) that heat will be a problem with metal vs plastic...the answer is aboslutley not...the air moves so quick through there that the heat transfer is so mininmal AND NO ITS NOT LIKE HOW THE RADIATOR AND HEAT ELEMNT WORK!...If you want an honest calc..amybe Ill bereak out my old ME 412 book and do a quickie...but I'm I nuke what would I know about heat transfer?

Linc, your the second person (first was M95Roadster) who has made the arguement about the air moving so fast through the tube it couldn't possibly heat up significant enough to hinder power. I have a tendancy to agree with you! Not to mention, I just can't imagine a company like AEM using an aluminum tube if it hindered the true potential (power increases) of the intake. Also, (I'm not an engineer) but the comparison to the heater core on a car is just silly to me. A heater core is constructed in such a way as to retain heat (not to mention 200 degree coolant running through it) and is confined in a small area to aid in that goal! The aluminum intake tube seems incapable of heating air significantly considering the velocity of the air flowing through it and the short distance of the tube. Now, the only part I am not convinced of is whether or not the sealed box of the Volant will suck colder air to begin with (from the fender) compared to the AEM, K&N, and AirRaid designs which suck from the engine compartment???

Well its the absolute truth, like I said I'm a Nuke Eng by trade (Management now) and my budy is a ME adn the Other an EE its absolutely ridculous to thin that heat will have any effect and also I asked about the VOlant SCoop since my buddies specialty is fluid mechanics and he said it will get you nothing and he emphasized nothing...now thats not to say that the volant insnt a good intake system, because it certainly is, but I would think twice about dropping the money on the scoop for it..again

Here''s the deal...as far as intakes BUY WHAT YOU WANT THERE ALL PRETTY MUCH THE SAME!

Hmmm . . . I don't believe heat has NO effect on power I just don't think the heat transfer to the tube will have a significant effect on power. However, I'm still not convinced that sucking the air from the engine compartment is better than sucking it through the fender like the Volant. What say you about that? Under hood temps could get pretty hot.

Noe of the aftermarket intakes are going to perform well on the low end without the exhaust. I like the Volant for it being a sealed system, drawing only outside air.

That is correct and it really doesn't matter which one you get..I'm putting the K&N on today but as with my Z, expect the tourque curve to change...it'll dip below stock at about 3000rpm then climnb again at about 3300 rpm to a little above stock and hold the curve there after at a litle above stock...anyway here's another thing ther is no way and I mean no way anyone can say K&N vs. AEM vs. Volant has a winner there all pretty much the same as far as performance and as far as anyone telling you (I've seen it before here) that heat will be a problem with metal vs plastic...the answer is aboslutley not...the air moves so quick through there that the heat transfer is so mininmal AND NO ITS NOT LIKE HOW THE RADIATOR AND HEAT ELEMNT WORK!...If you want an honest calc..amybe Ill bereak out my old ME 412 book and do a quickie...but I'm I nuke what would I know about heat transfer?

Linc, your the second person (first was M95Roadster) who has made the arguement about the air moving so fast through the tube it couldn't possibly heat up significant enough to hinder power. I have a tendancy to agree with you! Not to mention, I just can't imagine a company like AEM using an aluminum tube if it hindered the true potential (power increases) of the intake. Also, (I'm not an engineer) but the comparison to the heater core on a car is just silly to me. A heater core is constructed in such a way as to retain heat (not to mention 200 degree coolant running through it) and is confined in a small area to aid in that goal! The aluminum intake tube seems incapable of heating air significantly considering the velocity of the air flowing through it and the short distance of the tube. Now, the only part I am not convinced of is whether or not the sealed box of the Volant will suck colder air to begin with (from the fender) compared to the AEM, K&N, and AirRaid designs which suck from the engine compartment???

Well its the absolute truth, like I said I'm a Nuke Eng by trade (Management now) and my budy is a ME adn the Other an EE its absolutely ridculous to thin that heat will have any effect and also I asked about the VOlant SCoop since my buddies specialty is fluid mechanics and he said it will get you nothing and he emphasized nothing...now thats not to say that the volant insnt a good intake system, because it certainly is, but I would think twice about dropping the money on the scoop for it..again

Here''s the deal...as far as intakes BUY WHAT YOU WANT THERE ALL PRETTY MUCH THE SAME!

Hmmm . . . I don't believe heat has NO effect on power I just don't think the heat transfer to the tube will have a significant effect on power. However, I'm still not convinced that sucking the air from the engine compartment is better than sucking it through the fender like the Volant. What say you about that? Under hood temps could get pretty hot.

THauler,
The AEM has a heatshield which does a fine job sealing. The filter never gets hot. Most of the air is still pulled through the fender. Besides the air flow through the engine compartment is sufficient when the vehicle is moving even at low speeds. The air is not stagnant in there. There is all this talk about system A vs system B and so on. But when it's time to drop the hammer most of the aftermarket intakes will make similar gains if designed properly. It comes down to personal preference.

Where you'll see HP/torque curves change will be with the diameter and length of the tubing. Pipes are tuned to resonate at certain frequencies which will increase velocity (similar to exhaust pipes). Believe it or not, that little resonator sitting on the factory intake pipe has a purpose (usually for good torque output and sound control).