Saw this posted over at TT. Is that a beautiful sight or what?

http://www.titantalk.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=9535

is this going to be an aftermarket kit for sale?
details, i want details :D

is this going to be an aftermarket kit for sale?
details, i want details :D

It will indeed be for sale through Stillen real soon. I have heard anywhere from $4800 for raw parts to $6500 installed with ECM tuning and warranty! I have heard it should be worth 100 - 120 horsepower on premium pump gas.

Woohoo now I just have to rob a bank. Who is in with me.
LOL
m4ck

I am until we get caught!

I am until we get caught!

lol, I'm in too!! I'm a firm believer that it's only illegal if you get caught. :D

Now...who's going to drive the get-away Titan?
:flamer:

Now...who's going to drive the get-away Titan?
:flamer:

That'll be ME!!! :flamer: :flamer:

Well I see a few guys that will have SuperChargers soon. When we getting together boys. LOL
m4ck

is this going to be an aftermarket kit for sale?
details, i want details :D

It will indeed be for sale through Stillen real soon. I have heard anywhere from $4800 for raw parts to $6500 installed with ECM tuning and warranty! I have heard it should be worth 100 - 120 horsepower on premium pump gas.

This is going to be a very hard decision for me, spend my fiberglass body fund on what I intended it for, or wait until that comes out. Fiberglass body for something that only sees offroad use, or another 100 horses for something that I drive everyday. This is one of those decisions I hate making.

is this going to be an aftermarket kit for sale?
details, i want details :D

It will indeed be for sale through Stillen real soon. I have heard anywhere from $4800 for raw parts to $6500 installed with ECM tuning and warranty! I have heard it should be worth 100 - 120 horsepower on premium pump gas.

This is going to be a very hard decision for me, spend my fiberglass body fund on what I intended it for, or wait until that comes out. Fiberglass body for something that only sees offroad use, or another 100 horses for something that I drive everyday. This is one of those decisions I hate making.

I think I can help ya. No thinking at all get the SC.
hands down if you can afford it what is going to be more impressive. 100 to 120 extra HP or a fiberglass body kit.
Hmm I know which one it would be for me.
Hope I have helped you in your decision. LOL
m4ck

That would be awesome!

is this going to be an aftermarket kit for sale?
details, i want details :D

It will indeed be for sale through Stillen real soon. I have heard anywhere from $4800 for raw parts to $6500 installed with ECM tuning and warranty! I have heard it should be worth 100 - 120 horsepower on premium pump gas.

This is going to be a very hard decision for me, spend my fiberglass body fund on what I intended it for, or wait until that comes out. Fiberglass body for something that only sees offroad use, or another 100 horses for something that I drive everyday. This is one of those decisions I hate making.

I think I can help ya. No thinking at all get the SC.
hands down if you can afford it what is going to be more impressive. 100 to 120 extra HP or a fiberglass body kit. (editor's note****NOT A BODY KIT, BUT A WHOLE BODY****)
Hmm I know which one it would be for me.
Hope I have helped you in your decision. LOL
m4ck

Money isn't the problem, its my financial manager(wife) that is. A much needed Fiberglass body for a vehicle that is like a member of the family that is in desperate need of some plastic surgery. A not so needed supercharger for a vehicle that already has enough power for what I use it for. Now in a perfect world, one in which my wife doesn't want a new house, I would get both, but in this world, I had to do a year's worth of honey-do's and world class *** kissing to talk her into the fiberglass body. Maybe I'll just order the supercharger when it comes out and see how long it takes her to notice, after all it's much easier to ask forgiveness than permission right? :twisted:

Is that a beautiful sight or what?

Haminahaminahaminahamina ...
:pant:

That thing sure is purtty. :love:

Oooh baby! I got my eye on one a those....keep us informed...

Maybe I'll just order the supercharger when it comes out and see how long it takes her to notice, after all it's much easier to ask forgiveness than permission right? :twisted:

:roflmao:

Is it just me or does the pic just look odd. I mean, it looks like the belt runs into the radiator hose, the bolts that hold the throttle body on to the front of that thing should be grabbing air since the t.b. flange is wider than the blower. I also can't see any kind of housing that would hold the gears/cogs to actually turn the lobes inside the case. It just looks funny. Hey I might need to put the chainsaw down or something...

Is it just me or does the pic just look odd. I mean, it looks like the belt runs into the radiator hose, the bolts that hold the throttle body on to the front of that thing should be grabbing air since the t.b. flange is wider than the blower. I also can't see any kind of housing that would hold the gears/cogs to actually turn the lobes inside the case. It just looks funny. Hey I might need to put the chainsaw down or something...

i see what you are talkin about with the pulley housing, you can see right under it. there is no bracket or gears to connect to the SC or the engine.
the intake pipe also has that blue screen look behind the radiator cap.
mabye someone is just good at photo editing

:'( i likey supercharger, no likey photoshop!

Is it just me or does the pic just look odd. I mean, it looks like the belt runs into the radiator hose, the bolts that hold the throttle body on to the front of that thing should be grabbing air since the t.b. flange is wider than the blower. I also can't see any kind of housing that would hold the gears/cogs to actually turn the lobes inside the case. It just looks funny. Hey I might need to put the chainsaw down or something...

I am just speculating but I think it has something to do with the fact that the 5.6L is DOHC. There are dual timing chains routed up to the camshafts rather than a single short chain typical of pushrod engines. I suspect there is a belt below the throttle body and the pulley in the photo is a rerouted belt for something else since it is a serpentine setup. I agree with you though, typically the pulley comes straight out the front of the blower which turns the impellers inside. It looked funny to me too at first glance. I have a feeling this blower setup will look nothing like we have seen before. Belts routed weird, etc, etc. I guess we'll see. I wasn't even aware a roots type blower could be adapted to an overhead cam motor effectively but then again, Jackson Racing did it with the Honda Civic years ago and we all scratched our heads. :) Engineers . . .

Look again. Eaton, Whipple, and KB superchargers intake air at the rear of the blower unlike the traditional roots-style blower(B&M, BDS, etc). Look at the weird intake manifolds snaking around the rear of the blower on a Lightning and Cobra Mustang. They've obviously turned the blower around so the throttle body is in the stock location and the blower is driven from the rear with a jack-shaft. Follow the pulley toward the rear of the blower and you can see the shaft and you can just make out the polished bracket on the rear supporting it. I've seen similar set-ups on a couple newer GM engines. I think it was a Whipple for the new Pontiac GTO that was set up just like this.

Oops, I was wrong it is Magnuson(Eaton) on the GTO.Here's a picture from the Popular HotRodding install article...
http://highperformancepontiac.com/tech/0411pon_blown_17_z.jpg
Look familiar?
Here it is from the rear...
http://highperformancepontiac.com/tech/0411pon_blown_18_z.jpg

And here it is installed and you can see the pulley on the end of the jack shaft next to the intake tube just like the Stillen set-up...
http://highperformancepontiac.com/tech/0411pon_blown_19_z.jpg

I'm ready for one! I'm starting to miss my 03 Cobra and this should take care of that. :D

And here it is installed and you can see the pulley on the end of the jack shaft next to the intake tube just like the Stillen set-up...
http://highperformancepontiac.com/tech/0411pon_blown_19_z.jpg

I'm ready for one! I'm starting to miss my 03 Cobra and this should take care of that. :D

And there ya go!

OK I can see that the shaft is most likely highly polished and that's why it's so hard to see. It's reflecting everything else.

enough with the teasing, when does the group buy start on these?? :lol:

Those of you getting these things had better put money away for your tires. Can't see anyway to keep from lighting them up with a SC installed.

Saw this posted over at TT. Is that a beautiful sight or what?

http://www.titantalk.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=9535

Everyone, I spoke to Stillen and in order to get the 3 Year / 36,000 mile warrarty. An ASE mechanic must complete the install and it takes ~12 hours. I was also given an ~ price of $3000 - $4000 and + $500 for the polished.

It sure does make you drool! :hypnotiz:

so its 4500 for the polished s/c, and then about 6500 for ecu reflashing and then gauges?...adn i mean, w/ a new s/c ur gonna need fatter tires...so about 8 grand total.......mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm sounds good. im a little young for 8 grand but for you guys it sounds good!

Saw this posted over at TT. Is that a beautiful sight or what?

http://www.titantalk.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=9535

Everyone, I spoke to Stillen and in order to get the 3 Year / 36,000 mile warrarty. An ASE mechanic must complete the install and it takes ~12 hours. I was also given an ~ price of $3000 - $4000 and + $500 for the polished.

It sure does make you drool! :hypnotiz:

3-4K really isn't all that bad, considering the Radix for the GM 5.3s are 5K. I can't think of better way to use that 0% check I got from my Mastercard :wink:

Also the fact that if this puppy is installed right, the horsepower figures should increase 50 percent which would equal 152.5hp (hopefully at the wheels). I really wish Whipple would get in on the bandwagon producing a twin-screw version of this!!! :lol:

:pant:

Hello again,

Just thought I would chime in on this one. On our last "Show Truck" we installed a Powerdyne Supercharger. The truck is a 2003 Chevy Silverado 1500 4x4 that was lifted 6" and 35x12.5x17 tires.

The SC was suppossed to make 50% more horses at the wheels.

IT DID!!! and more. Even with the monster tires and all of the other mods we did, the truck was insane. While cruising at 65mph on the highway, if you mashed down the gas pedal, the truck would kick sideways and smoke the tires. Not bad if you have a change of underware handy.

Needless to say the gas mileage went in the crapper, but WHO CARES!

Fast, fast fast. I know there isn't such a thing as too fast, but we were close.

Devin & Truckoutfitters

I happen to love the powerdyne brand of S/C's but the last time I e-mailed them they said they would not be making a kit for the Titan.....Bummer.. :crying:

how much of an mpg loss do you guys think we'll get from the s/c.....like 5-6 or more?...cuz im running like 9-11 mpg's depending if im feeling frisky that day ;) btw.......gas is 2.23 REGULAR here in long island, took me 51$ to fill up my tank....i almost wish for my broken fuel gauge to trick me into having a full tank ;)

when flooring it off the line, it will probably barely get 1mpg. on the highway with very nice driving youmight see the the same milage that your used to. just dont floor it and you wont get bad mileage, but whats the fun of having a SC and not flooring it.

holy crap, ill be gettin 1mpg if i supercharge my truck??? with gas at 2.32 i think ill grandma drive for now....

if you drive it around floored all the time, yeah 1 mpg might be a realistic estimate. Most supercharged vehicles I have driven or experienced actually get better mileage under normal conditions than they did before they were supercharged.

If I remember right, you have to use premium w/ a supercharger. So whether you keep your foot out of it or not, your wallets gonna take a hit! :o

if you drive it around floored all the time, yeah 1 mpg might be a realistic estimate. Most supercharged vehicles I have driven or experienced actually get better mileage under normal conditions than they did before they were supercharged.

That is very possible. With the extra torque, you don't have to push the go pedal as hard as you did before in "normal" driving. I actually saw it documented in a magazine a while back. They installed a Vortech in a Explorer with the 4.0 V6 and it got something crazy like 4-5 mpg better in around town driving. The V6 was obviously over worked when it was stock just hauling the weight around. Our trucks definitely aren't under powered so we might not see much of a difference driven easy.

I know from experience that you can empty a tank pretty quick with a supercharged engine. I installed a K&N FIPK on my 03 Cobra and the blower wine was much louder. I had fun with this new noise and power and kept hammering it. I got 8.5 mpg on that tank. What amazed me was when I changed the pulley for more boost, change to an aftermarket exhaust, and a custom ECU tune, the mileage didn't change. I was making 433HP and 430lb.ft. on a local dyno and getting 16-17 all around and 20-21mpg on a long highway trip.

What will hurt more than anything else will be the necessity to run high octane gas. 93 octane prices are getting unbelievable. I was filling up the Titan the other day and hit the 93 button on the pump out of habit and almost had a heart attack when I saw the price. You have to pay to play! :D

if you drive it around floored all the time, yeah 1 mpg might be a realistic estimate. Most supercharged vehicles I have driven or experienced actually get better mileage under normal conditions than they did before they were supercharged.

That is very possible. With the extra torque, you don't have to push the go pedal as hard as you did before in "normal" driving. I actually saw it documented in a magazine a while back. They installed a Vortech in a Explorer with the 4.0 V6 and it got something crazy like 4-5 mpg better in around town driving. The V6 was obviously over worked when it was stock just hauling the weight around. Our trucks definitely aren't under powered so we might not see much of a difference driven easy.

I know from experience that you can empty a tank pretty quick with a supercharged engine. I installed a K&N FIPK on my 03 Cobra and the blower wine was much louder. I had fun with this new noise and power and kept hammering it. I got 8.5 mpg on that tank. What amazed me was when I changed the pulley for more boost, change to an aftermarket exhaust, and a custom ECU tune, the mileage didn't change. I was making 433HP and 430lb.ft. on a local dyno and getting 16-17 all around and 20-21mpg on a long highway trip.

What will hurt more than anything else will be the necessity to run high octane gas. 93 octane prices are getting unbelievable. I was filling up the Titan the other day and hit the 93 button on the pump out of habit and almost had a heart attack when I saw the price. You have to pay to play! :D

The price of premium doesn't bother me as much as it used to, when gas was a 1.09 and premium was 1.39, I would never run premium, but now the difference doesn't seem so bad, I filled up last night the cheap stuff was 2.19 and premium was 2.29, so it was only about 2.50 extra for me to go ahead and put premium in it, if I can afford to put 50 bucks in, I can afford 53.

That's not bad. When I was filling up the other day and saw the price, I was paying $2.09 for reg. but it said $2.49 for premium. That's too much of a difference, specially if there is no advantage to run 93 octane in my Titan.

Any thoughts on how much HP/TRQ our trannys will hold since they are just a beefed up version of the 350z tranny?

I was wondering about the tranny myself. once we can play with the ecu, we may see 500 ft/lbs of torque at the crank :twisted:

I was wondering about the tranny myself. once we can play with the ecu, we may see 500 ft/lbs of torque at the crank :twisted:

And pieces of the tranny all over the shop.

supposedly the 350Z has had numerous people push over 400 hp to the wheel and the trannies hold up fine. if its a beefed up 350z tranny then hopfully we can push 500hp out of it before it goes.

supposedly the 350Z has had numerous people push over 400 hp to the wheel and the trannies hold up fine. if its a beefed up 350z tranny then hopfully we can push 500hp out of it before it goes.

True but you also have to think about how much more our trucks weigh compared to the 350z. They probably beefed up the tranny so it would handle moving our 5000 lb butt around

I thought about the transmission for a while when I weas first running nitrous. But if you think about it, the stress on the gears and other components would be higher pulling a 9000 pound load than providing little resistance of just running around empty. My thinking is that if those transmissions are designed to take that kind of abuse, 50hp or even 100hp on nitrous wouldn't be that bad on it, simply because of less resistance at the wheels.

With the exception of the first few runs (months ago), I keep the nitrous on as it is shifting and haven't had any issues. Granted, I'm just using a 50hp shot. But I do check the transmission dip stick after every race night to make sure there is no burnt smell on the fluid, that the color is good, and that there are no filings on the fluid there. Once I started running shorter tires, I started shifting into 4th as well.

I thought about the transmission for a while when I weas first running nitrous. But if you think about it, the stress on the gears and other components would be higher pulling a 9000 pound load than providing little resistance of just running around empty. My thinking is that if those transmissions are designed to take that kind of abuse, 50hp or even 100hp on nitrous wouldn't be that bad on it, simply because of less resistance at the wheels.

Good point. It reminds me of the 5-speed I want to put in my 73 Bronco. It's rated for 300hp in a vehicle that weighs 7200lbs. The early broncos only weigh about 3800-4000lbs. so it should be fine. If out trannys can take pulling over 9000 lbs. it can handle a 100hp gain(I hope :D )

I also believe that the tranny should be fine my concern is the rods and pistons. I can't remember but I believe that I read that the crank was a forged piece but I don't know about the rods and pistons. Extended periods of added combustion chamber pressure isn't healthy for non forged parts.

I thought about the transmission for a while when I weas first running nitrous. But if you think about it, the stress on the gears and other components would be higher pulling a 9000 pound load than providing little resistance of just running around empty. My thinking is that if those transmissions are designed to take that kind of abuse, 50hp or even 100hp on nitrous wouldn't be that bad on it, simply because of less resistance at the wheels.

Good point. It reminds me of the 5-speed I want to put in my 73 Bronco. It's rated for 300hp in a vehicle that weighs 7200lbs. The early broncos only weigh about 3800-4000lbs. so it should be fine. If out trannys can take pulling over 9000 lbs. it can handle a 100hp gain(I hope :D )

but can it handle an extra 100 hp while towing over 9000 lbs? :lol:

I want one now...... :twisted:

So I can smoke the SVT then we will be the big dogs...

Oh me tooo....Its like when I had my Z....I bolted on as much as I could and those damn GT's were still only beat by a car length...but the Cobras...eh I'm a crappy driver

but can it handle an extra 100 hp while towing over 9000 lbs?
LOL! It should as long as a piece of sky doesn't fall on it. :lol:

I just wish they would hurry up and come out with it so we can find out some answers to all these questions.

I am with you! I really do not want to be the test dude but... I put my foot in my mouth so...
I will need to check the ratios and such but as far as I can tell, no worries. The timing will need changed but the pistons and tranny should be Okay.
I will talk with the experts and find out more. Baerrrr with me on this.

This is my goal so... I need more advice, so again, any other concerns or comments are welcome.

More power the better! :twisted:

I also believe that the tranny should be fine my concern is the rods and pistons. I can't remember but I believe that I read that the crank was a forged piece but I don't know about the rods and pistons. Extended periods of added combustion chamber pressure isn't healthy for non forged parts.

The pistons are cast. That's one of the reasons why I only spray a 50hp shot at this time.