Hey everyone. New poster here. Glad I found you guys.

We had our rotors turned at less than 3000 miles and now they want to turn them AGAIN and said they would have to "measure" the rotors to see if Nissan would replace them. What do I say? Bull. My truck is shaking like an earthquake when you apply the brakes and we are scared to pull our camper now.

We love our Titan but are thinking about pursuing the lemon laws for our state. They told me that "if" we were approved it may take another month before rotors are available. Any suggestions?

Hi Ray and welcome to CT!!

Unfortunately you're going to have to play the dealers game on this topic. Nissan claims that this does not hurt overall braking which makes it impossible to lemon law it. Just try to hang in there and play their game for now. The new, thicker rotors should be available to all dealers within the next few months. That will be the final fix.

Mine is going in for the first turning tomorrow morning. Trust me, there is no affect on braking. I've had to hit them hard a couple of times and they've worked fine. Get the turning done again. If your rotors get to the thin point, that should move you to the head of the line for the new stuff.

I am getting the new permanent fix right now. The only reason they are doing it is because this is the 3rd time my truck has been in for the judder. They apparently only have a limited number of the new fixes coming in so I assume that they are getting the worst and most cases first. Someone getting it done for the first time won't be as ticked as a 3rd timer. I can't wait, truck will be ready at 4:30.

Welcome!! I dont know if you have read any of the posts about the brakes on the site yet..But yeah, you have to play the Nissan game to get the new stuff..Dont worry though, the truck will stop..It wont cause any damege to the vehicle..All that will happen is the steering wheel will shake....But get an appointment, get it in to the dealer and keep the ball rolling to fix the brakes.

I just got my new brake components installed by the local GA dealer yesterday. This problem has been ongoing with the Titan since it's release. The front rotors are to thin to handle the heat generation and the pad material contributes to the problem. Heat causes the rotors to warp.

Nissan has released new thicker rotors and new pads. The dealer will install new front rotors and pads all around.

My initial "judder" as it's officially called, started at 12K, was fixed by turning rotors and changing pads and reappeared at 22K.

Depending on the dealer you should be able to go in and get the fix with no hassle. My dealer was upfront after I complained and gave no hassle.

What makes me angry is Nissan hasn't yet done the right thing and issued a total recall. It's kind of if they complain, fix it. I have owned 3 Nissan trucks since 2000 and thought better of Nissan. Apparently it is an image problem they are trying to avoid or something.

The service writer told me it was costing Nissan about $700 a vehicle to fix so it isn't going to help their bottom line. But the handling of the problem may be more costly in the long run as I was very disappointed that they didn't arrange a recall.

Its not going to be a recall because it is not a safety issue...Nissan is working on fixing the problem and has issued many TSB's for it..You shouldnt have to force the dealer to fix it..They should be following what Nissan has laid out and correct the problem..Everyone knows this is not fun, and causes a big hassle for the customer. But that is why they are extending the warranty for the brake judder.

That's the problem with the auto industry in general. Recalls relate to safety and they sometimes fudge on decisions of what safety can be.
My opinion is the judder can be a safety issue. Hard breaking brings terrible vibration and in the right circumstances could lead to loss of control or rear end collision if the driver doesn't brake hard to avoid judder.
Nissan just needs to do the right thing and bite the bullet. Replace an inferior system and show the public that they care about the quality of their products.
This forum and others show a clear indication that the factory is unwilling to come clean to the problem by contacting buyers and informing them of the problem or its potential. A Nissan owner shouldn't have to seek out the cause of problems from anyone other than a Nissan dealer. Nissan is just falling in line with the GM's and Ford's by not belleying up to the bar and doing what is right by their customer base. I have 3 Nissan vehicles in my driveway right now and this incident has tarnished my opinion on how they do business.

That's the problem with the auto industry in general. Recalls relate to safety and they sometimes fudge on decisions of what safety can be.
My opinion is the judder can be a safety issue. Hard breaking brings terrible vibration and in the right circumstances could lead to loss of control or rear end collision if the driver doesn't brake hard to avoid judder.
Nissan just needs to do the right thing and bite the bullet. Replace an inferior system and show the public that they care about the quality of their products.
This forum and others show a clear indication that the factory is unwilling to come clean to the problem by contacting buyers and informing them of the problem or its potential. A Nissan owner shouldn't have to seek out the cause of problems from anyone other than a Nissan dealer. Nissan is just falling in line with the GM's and Ford's by not belleying up to the bar and doing what is right by their customer base. I have 3 Nissan vehicles in my driveway right now and this incident has tarnished my opinion on how they do business.

I do understand where you are comming from, honestly I do..I know you and many of my customers are not happy about this and not saying you should be....I have had many many people say that this is a dangerous situation..My opinion (mine only, and NOT trying to start any fights or any hard feelings) is I just dont think it is..Like I have said, my own personal vehicle has had warped rotors for many years..I let my wife drive it all the time..I have driven and seen many vehicle with rotors warped very severly..I have yet to find one that cause any kind of accident..I have yet to hear of one that caused an accident..I guess you could say that in the right situation, if I lite my fart on fire, I will burst into flames like a Hollywood stunt man...But I do agree, I think Nissan should be working a bit harder to get this fixed..But I am just not convinced its a safety issue.

My friend I appreciate your position and thoughts but the bad thing in our society is the legal system in the event of an accident.

A shyster lawyer with little or no mechanical knowledge could take a rear end collision and turn the judders into a financially motivated lawsuit that would do far more harm. The little bottom feeder would do his cram course on undercarrige mechanicals and become an "expert" in front of a jury. Nissan would do well to admit to the problem, do a recall announcement and solve a lot of aggravation.

I was a service writer years ago during the Firestone 500 fiasco. Firestone couldn't figure out how to bond rubber to steel in their ealy radial design. they ignored the problem and thoroughly damaged their name and business. Of course they didn't learn and the roly-poly Ford Explorer and the Firestone radial caused another big mess of crashes and lawsuits.

I drive 50K a year throughout the SE for busisiness and trust me, it's hard enough for a lot of people to safely negotiate the roads without shaking brakes. Idiots plus faulty eqipment is a sure formula for diaster.

By the way I wouldn't recommend lighting a blue flamer in a vehicle with the judders. You could singe important equipment. But that's another story....

It is hard for me to believe that brake judder
has " no " impact on braking performance.

Lighting a blue flamer!! :roflmao: ( I did forget about the shady lawyers though..very true)

Mine's on it's 3rd rotor turn also. Dealer says that Nissan has extended the rotor warranty to 3 yrs/unlimited mileage so we can all get the retro-fit. It's not shuddering yet, but it's only been 4000 miles since last turn-down. We'll see next time if they install the thicker rotors.

I had my first turn at 7500. The dealer said that most have been in like three times so I have to wait for the final fix. This is the third thing I have had to take my Titan back to the dealer for. First the gas gauge was stuck on full(I wish it were true), it had a bad sending unit. Next, while my wife and kids were in it, the gas line came off and the cab filled up with fumes. A plastic clamp was used instead of a metal one. So my view of Nissan has definately taken a hit. This is my third nissan truck, and I have loved them all. But I hope I do not find anymore flaws.

Nissan is getting very strict about the brakes..We just got a recent memo telling us about what we can and cannot do with them (honestly, I dont know why they are being this way, and like I have stated before, the new Titans being built as we speak still have old brake parts..!) Nissan is trying to make dealers go by the book big time..

Just had the "fix it" done for the brakes at Nissan. This is a first time at 17k miles. They immediately took care of the problem in addition too picking up the tab on the rental car for the day. What upsets me is Forbes just listed the top ten pickup trucks with Tundra being ten or on the bottom. Titan didn't make the list. What's up with this?