This section will be sticky so it will be easy access for everyone and one area to post all dyno sheets of our mighty Titans!! Thanks everyone and lets see who's first to break 300hp to the rear wheels without any correction factors or forced induction!!

If you don't have your pics hosted on the web you can send them to me, I'll host them for you and post them here for everyone to admire. I've seen these threads go sour on other sites so lets keep this one informative and fun because that's what it's all about!! 8)

All, this is TitanKen's Dyno report!!

Per request, here is my dyno graph:

Miles: 1900
Oil: Standard oem
Gas: 91 octane
Temp: about 75
Humidity: about 50%
Equipment: Dynojet
Test gear: 4th

SES light on due to O2 sensor damage durring header install.


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Here's the first dyno run on my truck on 1/14/04, it had 1K miles on it and was completely stock. Weather conditions were mild 68'F with 90% humidity.

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Here's the second dyno run I had done on 5/18/04. This one compares the stock intake with a Volant CAI. Temp. was 87' with 98% humidity. All runs were done in 3rd gear and the engine was taken to fuel cut-off 6400rpm. The engine was baselined before I installed the Volant CAI which is represented by the lower hp numbers..

Fuel was 87 octane, oil was M1 0W-40..

As you can see the Volant made a few more hp and tq. Thank goodness because they're not cheap!!

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And here's the last dyno run I had done. Mileage was 20200, temp. 88' and humidity was 66%. Oil M1 0W-40, fuel was Sam's 87 octane. All runs were done in 3rd gear.

This run was done with a totally new exhaust system installed. 2.5" straight pipes replacing the resonators, 2.5" Gison Y-pipe which goes to 3" at the collector, Flowmaster 50 series muffler, single 3" in and dual 2.5" out to twin tailpipes.

Figures stabilized at the 4th dyno run when everything was heat soaked.

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And here's the last dyno run I had done. Mileage was 20200, temp. 88' and humidity was 66%. Oil M1 0W-40, fuel was Sam's 87 octane. All runs were done in 3rd gear.

This run was done with a totally new exhaust system installed. 2.5" straight pipes replacing the resonators, 2.5" Gison Y-pipe which goes to 3" at the collector, Flowmaster 50 series muffler, single 3" in and dual 2.5" out to twin tailpipes.

Figures stabilized at the 4th dyno run when everything was heat soaked.

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JetTech what gear did you dyno in?

3rd, 4th will bump off the speed limiter before the engine is at redline.

3rd, 4th will bump off the speed limiter before the engine is at redline.

Thanks, I'm having mine done tommorow. I would presume the computer adjust all the correct ratio's to give accurate #'s due to 3rd not being say a 1 to 1 ratio.

if this is your first time having your truck dynoed it's a learning experience and a lot of fun. The dyno computer will give corrected and uncorrected amounts of hp and tq. Just make sure they pull enough runs to where you can duplicate the numbers. It took 4 runs this last time and a good 7 pulls the time before that. Sometimes it can take a while for the engine to get heat soaked and stabilize out. Also the person doing the dyno run might try to floor it really quick, make sure to tell them to roll into it around 3400 so it doesn't downshift and it will make more hp then stomping on it at 3600 rpms. Just a tip..

Just make sure to note the outside temp. humidity and then please post pics of your run and let us know how it did. What mods do you have?

if this is your first time having your truck dynoed it's a learning experience and a lot of fun. The dyno computer will give corrected and uncorrected amounts of hp and tq. Just make sure they pull enough runs to where you can duplicate the numbers. It took 4 runs this last time and a good 7 pulls the time before that. Sometimes it can take a while for the engine to get heat soaked and stabilize out. Also the person doing the dyno run might try to floor it really quick, make sure to tell them to roll into it around 3400 so it doesn't downshift and it will make more hp then stomping on it at 3600 rpms. Just a tip..

Just make sure to note the outside temp. humidity and then please post pics of your run and let us know how it did. What mods do you have?

Thanks for all the tips, I'll need em, this is my first and looking forward to the learning experience. The only mod I have now is the Gibson Extreme Duals, you too right... I think I'll be the first to dyno w/ this setup.

Not to stray from the topic I did your $22 helper spring mod and it was the best $22 I ever spent on the TiTan. I appreciate your contribution to the boards.

are you running synthetic oil in the engine and differentials? That will usually add a couple hp if you do. I don't know where you live because temp. plays a huge role in output, but I'm going to guess you'll come in around 275hp and approx. 320tq. This would be at warmer temps. so they should be higher than that if you live in a cool climate.

I'm glad you like the helper spring mod. I should probably post it over here on this forum just in case there are people who haven't heard about it. What a difference they make, I'm going to install them on my new truck this weekend, not because of axle wind-up but because they stabilize the truck out so much and make it handle awesome. Can't wait to see pics and hear how your beast did at the dyno, good luck and have fun....

oh yeah and one other thing, make sure to ask the dyno operator if he will give you the uncorrected numbers so we have something to compare to, all of my runs are uncorrected for temp. and humidity.

are you running synthetic oil in the engine and differentials? That will usually add a couple hp if you do. I don't know where you live because temp. plays a huge role in output, but I'm going to guess you'll come in around 275hp and approx. 320tq. This would be at warmer temps. so they should be higher than that if you live in a cool climate.

I'm glad you like the helper spring mod. I should probably post it over here on this forum just in case there are people who haven't heard about it. What a difference they make, I'm going to install them on my new truck this weekend, not because of axle wind-up but because they stabilize the truck out so much and make it handle awesome. Can't wait to see pics and hear how your beast did at the dyno, good luck and have fun....

I'm running convential oil everywhere except rear dff, there it is valvoline synthetic blend. As many did I had an issue w/ rear diff in begining which was taken care of no questions asked hence the reason for the different oil in rear. I would have went w/ full syn had I been able to find it at the time. Eventually will be running synthetic through out.

Live in Rich,Va and forcast tommorow is temp in 50's w/ high humidity. Hope humidity doesn't hurt too much and maybe w/ temp being in 50's will help negate the effect humidity level as far as dyno.

You really should post about that mod over here.
Best $22 anyone will spend on vechile.

New Truck??

I'll have camcorder in tow and will post info asap.

Thanks again.

Mike

check on the uncorrected numbers...

Yes on the new truck. I traded in my loaded LE for a more affordable 4x4 SE due to paycuts coming. Oh well, at least I got a 4x4 and was able to start over again. I wouldn't have it any other way.. :)

Temp. will only do so much to offset humidity so it will be interesting to see your results.

Yes on the new truck. I traded in my loaded LE for a more affordable 4x4 SE due to paycuts coming. Oh well, at least I got a 4x4 and was able to start over again. I wouldn't have it any other way.. :)

Temp. will only do so much to offset humidity so it will be interesting to see your results.

Good decision on 4x4, that's the most important option IMHO, got a SE myself, good all around....

Heck as far as the 4x4 goes forget about the snow or weather...I need 4x4 to even get traction in good weather...LOL

that reminds me of a question I was going to ask you, are you running it in 4WD throughout your whole quarter mile runs with your G-tech or are you kicking it off? I remember reading somewhere that 62mph was max. speed in 4WD. Also your probably experiencing more drag with it in 4x4. Have you tried letting it spin a little to keep the engine from bogging? I know mine will give a chirp in 2WD then the VDC will cut output and then I'm off like a rocket. Even with the VDC shut-off the ABLS will kick in and limit wheel spin to maybe several revolutions and then I'm hooked up and going.

One more question off topic a bit. Have you noticed your left exit tailpipe hitting your spring shackles? Mine was before I gave it a little persuation.. :roll:

that reminds me of a question I was going to ask you, are you running it in 4WD throughout your whole quarter mile runs with your G-tech or are you kicking it off? I remember reading somewhere that 62mph was max. speed in 4WD. Also your probably experiencing more drag with it in 4x4. Have you tried letting it spin a little to keep the engine from bogging? I know mine will give a chirp in 2WD then the VDC will cut output and then I'm off like a rocket. Even with the VDC shut-off the ABLS will kick in and limit wheel spin to maybe several revolutions and then I'm hooked up and going.

One more question off topic a bit. Have you noticed your left exit tailpipe hitting your spring shackles? Mine was before I gave it a little persuation.. :roll:

O Boy,I had no choice but to run 0 to 60 and 1/4 w/ 4wd engaged. I know I'm taking a chance doing this as that was brought to my attention that the owners manual says this. I don't have VDC either...

The first few runs in 2wd I would spin just enough to effect my times enough that I finially got fed up and locked em in... The ABLS doesn't seem to do too much for me as I'll spin for 40 feet before I'll catch. I haven't mastered the feathering of the gas pedal method however your mod(helper spring) has helped in this area..
I've said this before we need a REAL LSD for the rear end and I can't wait till someone makes one for us or someone put's one in. I'm not sure how the ABLS will be effected if at all when putting in a new LSD.

Funny you mentioned the pipe clearence. I had to do some tweaking as well. The spring shackles were in the way when I would hit a bump as well as one of the pipes was vibrating against the frame.Fixed now with alot of persuation. :lol:

that's odd your ABLS isn't working that good. You might want to have it checked out at a dealer because when it's working properly there's no way you should be able to lay down 40ft of rubber without it braking the spinning wheel. Are both wheels spinning or just one?

I agree on the LSD. Nissan should have used a mechanical cluth or cone locker instead of ABLS. It's a better option in my opinion. I believe the only ones who could use an aftermarket setup are those who do not have 4x4 nor VDC. Without those two items they truly have an open diff.

that's odd your ABLS isn't working that good. You might want to have it checked out at a dealer because when it's working properly there's no way you should be able to lay down 40ft of rubber without it braking the spinning wheel. Are both wheels spinning or just one?

I agree on the LSD. Nissan should have used a mechanical cluth or cone locker instead of ABLS. It's a better option in my opinion. I believe the only ones who could use an aftermarket setup are those who do not have 4x4 nor VDC. Without those two items they truly have an open diff.

I see the ABLS light come on when I turn a corner and loose traction and it seems to work however under full throttle(had to say that) there is too much power for it to matter...

Mostley one wheel is spinning with the other slightly. Going back and looking at the rubber mark there is one black mark with a slight trace of a second in spots.

Please don't tell me with a 4wd w/ no VDC I won't be able to get a LSD...

still sounds like the ABLS is not fully grabbing the spinning wheel, I think I would still take it in to be looked at. CAn't hurt to at least let them know your having traction problems in the rain, or at least that's what I would tell them. 8)

I'm not 100% sure that a true LSD would work on trucks equipped with either ABLS, E-Locker or VDC. Maybe...

still sounds like the ABLS is not fully grabbing the spinning wheel, I think I would still take it in to be looked at. CAn't hurt to at least let them know your having traction problems in the rain, or at least that's what I would tell them. 8)

I'm not 100% sure that a true LSD would work on trucks equipped with either ABLS, E-Locker or VDC. Maybe...

I'm waiting on my new radio to come in per the tsb so I'll have them check out the ABLS next time at the dealer.
Thanks again for all the info. Looking forward to the dyno tommorow and I have my checklist of comments that you have suggested.
Lets hope something will work out as far as LSD. :!:

Went to Performance Autosports today and did the Dyno.They specialize in Performance Mustangs and Lightings so they are used to seeing pretty good #'s so it was refreshing when he was very surprised at the results. He said none of the Ford, Chevy, Dodge truck's that he's done even come close. ( w/ eception of Lighting of course)
Pretty much what I expected , JetTech you were right on- best was 271.27 HP
316.93 Torque

He said being a 4wd w/ decent size tires he put the ratio for drivetrain loss rear wheel HP to crank at 20% so "To calculate the flywheel hp/tq numbers, divide by .8 (for 20%) and it gives you ~339hp/396tq."



As a matter of fact he just did a Hemi last week and I tried to get him to print me off the results but he wouldn't cause he didn't want the Dyno report w/ the shops name responsible as far as embarassing the guy. The hemi did have oversize tires on it and dynoed an amazing :lol: 228 HP and 260 torque :? Isn't it supposed to be 345HP at the crank?

Anyway my spec's:

Temp= 60

Humidity= 90%

Fuel= 89 octane

Milage= 3725

Oil= coventional for now

Dynoed in third gear

Mods= Gibson Gxtreme Duals

My G-Tech was right on averaging 270 HP when I tested a few day's ago...

Interesting how the HP and Torque spiked around 3800 rpm too 4200 dropped off a little than spiked back up around 5000 rpm's.

P.S. I'm gonna post better quality pics, notice the 115mph on the computer and yes that's me smiling in the background...if you were hearing what i was hearing it woulda put a smile on your grill too :lol:

Edited by M4ck:
Click here to here the Sound Clip of the Dyno Run. (http://www.clubtitan.org/downloads/finnattic/findynorun.mp3) this is very impressive!![/url]

wow, nice numbers and thanks for posting them here. It looks like I guessed a little high on both numbers but wasn't too far off either one. If you want to keep upping the power the next thing to get would be a CAI, either a Volant or K&N (I don't have any numbers for the K&N but I do for the Volant) and also switch everything over to synthetic. Those 2 things and a few more miles, to get her loosened up, should give you another 15 to 25ft/lbs. of tq. and about 10 more hp.

The hemi numbers the guy qouted do seem low, the dyno operators I've talked with say the hemi's usually come in around 247 to 254hp and about 280tq. Still markedly less than the mighty TITANS!! Great job and thanks again... :)

Nice Fin thanks for posting the info this is the kind of thing I like to see. Facts in writing. Hard for people to dispute this kind of info.

Thank you for the site M4ck and JetTech for all the tips and info...

JT you were right on guessing about 270 HP and my best run was 271 and change. my next mod will be the Volant...

M4ck you gotta post the sound byte called "Dyno Run" of one of the dyno runs here. It sounds like Nascar Man. It's the best representation of the gibson Extreme's yet. Also could you post it in the gibson Extreme forum that you started for me as well. Thanks, I'm gonna e-mail it to you...

Yeh I got the email and I was going to do it before I even saw this post. LOL really nice sound clip. Exciting to say the least. I will edit your posts and include them there.

Yeh I got the email and I was going to do it before I even saw this post. LOL really nice sound clip. Exciting to say the least. I will edit your posts and include them there.

Thank you Sir...

Thank you for the site M4ck and JetTech for all the tips and info...

JT you were right on guessing about 270 HP and my best run was 271 and change. my next mod will be the Volant...

M4ck you gotta post the soung byte called "Dyno Run" of one of the dyno runs here. It sounds like Nascar Man. It's the best representation of the gibson Extreme's yet. Also could you post it in the gibson Extreme forum that you started for me as well. Thanks, I'm gonna e-mail it to you...

I'm glad you've decided on the Volant, the K&N looks like it would suck in too much heat from the engine compartment whereas the Volant gets its air from the fender like the stock one does. Also the Volant will raise your torque at a lower rpm and it will give you much more boost on the top end as well. Good choice and thanks again for posting your results....AWESOME!!!

Dyno'd my truck today to test results of Aero-Turbine muffler, reso and new Y-pipe.

The "baseline" run (red) was with K&N drop-in, and stock airbox mod, stock exhaust. Today's comparison run (blue) is with new exhaust.

Notice the nice gains (especially torque) in the 3700 to about 4300rpm range. I'm very pleased with the results. I'll do one more dyno after the Volant install, maybe next week.

Before (corrected): 253.7 hp/ 304.6 tq
After (corrected): 260.5 hp/ 331.1 tq

The correction factor for air density/altitude was .21 for the baseline runs and .20 for todays comparison runs. That's a huge loss, 8O but I'm at 5400'.....the price ya pay for living in the Rockies!

Here's the graphs, both corrected and actual.

I made it to the dyno finally, before the Volant with the Gibson Extreme was 271.29 rwhp and 316.93 torque.

With the addition of the Volant I got a best of 279.70 rwhp and 339.01 torque. That's 8.41 more HP and 22.8 more torque. The engine was already pretty hot during these runs. Pretty much jumped right on dyno after I arrived. I had to travel on highway about 30 miles. Temp today was a little warmer than last time at 73 degrees with very low humidity at 15%. I'll post sheet as soon as I get my scanner working.

With 20% drive line loss were looking at a best of about 350 bhp and 425 torque. That's 45 more horses and 46 more torque w/ intake and exhaust.

I can't wait for a tuner programmer.

nice numbers finnattic!!! Can't wait to see the graph and thanks for posting this information here..

Sounds like good stuff Finnattic.
Keep up the good work.

nice numbers finnattic!!! Can't wait to see the graph and thanks for posting this information here..

Thanks JT,

With your contributions around these forums your becoming quite a celebrity 8)

I've got it bad, I may go back tomorrow in the morning. There having a DEC special for $60 for three runs. Having trouble keeping the aluminum engine cool. It really heats up fast and it shows on the Dyno...

Sounds like good stuff Finnattic.
Keep up the good work.

Thanks m4ck,
I was telling JT I might go back tomorrow and do it all over again.

Maybe throw some bags of ice on the Endurance to keep er cool :lol:

Well I went back to the dyno today, I just knew if I let the engine cool off a little that it could do better and I was right.

Yesterday my best was:

279.70 rwhp and 339.01 torque

Today was better:

Temp was about 50 degrees

Humidity was about 30%

and I let the Endurance cool off for about 35 min and it helped. Today was:

286.51 rwhp = 358 bhp 25% driveline loss

352.93 torque = 441 btq 25% driveline loss

Now that's some sweet numbers. Are they corrected for temp or is that what it put out at 50'F? Either way outstanding. I LOVE graphs, especially ones like this one!!! You da man and thanks for adding this to this great forum!!

Now that's some sweet numbers. Are they corrected for temp or is that what it put out at 50'F? Either way outstanding. I LOVE graphs, especially ones like this one!!! You da man and thanks for adding this to this great forum!!

Thanks JT,

Those are the uncorrected numbers as I remember you asking for before. I'm getting close to your numbers now.
It seems the aluminum Endurance cools off as fast as it heats up. I was able to give it time to cool down after I arrived and it seemed to make a difference. 8)
Thanks again for all your advise...

Mike

damn those are some nice numbers, what would they be if they were corrected?

damn those are some nice numbers, what would they be if they were corrected?

The corrected numbers kick azz too, I'll post the corrected SAE too as it appears that I'm not conforming with Nascar and NHRA rules and don't want to offend anyone... :twisted:

BTW nice times at the track and THANKS for the comparison with the G-Tech!

SAE Results

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Here is the best SAE dyno result.

After much discussion, lively at times here is the SAE best dyno ( Gibson mod and Volant), this is the best way to determine gains from mods in naturally aspirated internal combustion engines because it takes all variables out of the equation, altitude, weather, ect.

SAE with just Gibson was a best of 264.36 rwhp = 330.45 bhp
308.47 rwtq = 385.58 btq

SAE after the Volant was a best of 275.86 rwhp = 344.825 bhp
341.59 rwtq = 426.98 btq

Take away all possible variables it is now safe to say I gained

14.375 rwhp = 17.96 bhp
41.155 rwtq = 51.443 btq

The gains are significant and accurate and are proven, there is nothing left to dispute finally...

I find it interesting that I gained pretty much exactly what Volant claims as far as the max torque gain of 40. Add flywheel to that and where looking at 51 btq at the engine. Nice, 18 HP at the engine. Right about what Volant claims.

So it has been PROVEN that Volants claims are factual in my situation with the Gibson mod. I as many have always been skeptical what manufactures claim on their dyno's but this has been substantiated in my independent testing as far as the Volant in my case.

I hope all this info helps and it has been very interesting. Hope to test something new soon and I appreciate everyones contribution...

Your torque numbers are impressive. I think the Exhaust helped the Volant air intake. You may not have seen as much without it. Makes me want to duplicate your mods. I think Gibson is coming out with a 3" single exhaust that would interest me. What are the Titans running SAE net bone stock??

Your torque numbers are impressive. I think the Exhaust helped the Volant air intake. You may not have seen as much without it. Makes me want to duplicate your mods. I think Gibson is coming out with a 3" single exhaust that would interest me. What are the Titans running SAE net bone stock??

Thanks I thought so...your exactly right. The two mods compliment one another so well. It's almost as if one needs the other for maximim gain and they do.

Interesting A Gibson 3". Like a Banks...

Titans HP SAE is 305.

The TiTans torque SAE 379. I like the looks of 427 a lot better :D

they have already had the 3" single exaust out for some time now

http://dodgetruckworld.tenmagazines.com/mygallery.ten?id=6276&album=10672

Hemi dyno before and after Gibson exhaust...

Wow makes our truck look like a beast in the power department.

http://dodgetruckworld.tenmagazines.com/mygallery.ten?id=6276&album=10672

Hemi dyno before and after Gibson exhaust...

Wow makes our truck look like a beast in the power department.

No kidding, he was prolly using RP :lol:

I couldn't help it :D

Your right to be rated 345 SAE HP from the factory it certainly doesn't add up. I saw a dyno of a hemi at the dyno shop I go to and it was really low compared to us. I think it was 228 rwhp and 260 torque.

I happened to record this conversion while filming the dyno. Listen closely, it's kinda funny.

Funny stuff Finnattic. I love that conversation.

Funny stuff Finnattic. I love that conversation.

Puts a smile on my grill. :) and the Titans grill :D

Funny stuff Finnattic. I love that conversation.

O yeah real quick I gotta give you props once again for enabling sound files to be played so effortlessly on the site.

Also with images too...

Good work once again...

I am glad to be of service to this great community.
M4ck

Funny stuff Finnattic. I love that conversation.

I Lovvved when you beat that hemi at the strip in the 1/8 in that video. Good Times...

I'd love to see the 1/4 mile race.

Happy Holidays

Mike

Hey guys, my first post here is the bone stock dyno of my '04 SE CC 4x4 with Big Tow.
246.67hp/318.67tq. The torque would have shown higher if we would have dynoed it under 3800rpms.

Hey Getsomz28 you finally made it over here. Glad to see ya. Nice numbers I need to find a dyno around here.
Time to start googling.
M4ck

wow those are some great numbers for stock!!! are these corrected numbers?
Bixll you dynoed your truck stock right, how do your #'s look compared to this? or can you not tell untill your exaust/intake review is done?

http://www.titantalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18365&page=4&pp=15

For my dyno runs.

Thanks guys, those are corrected numbers. The actuals wouldnt look that great up here at ~5000ft elevation.

I don't have a scanner, so I'll tell you what I dyno'd today with my stock Titan. I will give the graphs to my buddy to scan for me.

3rd gear
Absolute barometric pressure: 29.36 in. Hg.
Vapor pressure: 0.081 in. Hg.
Intake air temp: 54.3 F
Gear Ratio: 49.34 RPM/MPH
Correction Factor: 0.97 SAE

267.01 hp
339.10 Torque

what do you have done to your truck qship? nice #'s, cant wait to see the graph :D

I will be posting Qships dyno sheet for him either tommorow or monday, he dynoed at Bristol dyno in Bristol CT, as the owner of a few Nissans I am happy to see the Titans putting out such great numbers, my Q45 with the VH45de put down 236/273.6 to the wheels on a DYNA-PAK WITH 194,000 on it, we tried to run the TITAN on this dyno but they didnt have it setup in the new shop yet, anyways you guys have some awesome trucks, I am in the market for a Dodge diesel but after driving the Titan today I might change my mind, take care :)

what do you have done to your truck qship? nice #'s, cant wait to see the graph :DIt's bone stock. I'll be doing the Volant, spacer and JBA exhaust very soon.

I want to get the B&B exhaust, but I'm not willing to spend $740 for it.

those #'s are huge for stock, mabye after the mods youll be the first titan over 300hp @ wheels

those #'s are huge for stock, mabye after the mods youll be the first titan over 300hp @ wheelsThat would be so sweeeet!

http://home.comcast.net/~tbgear/Pics/scan0002.jpg

Nice numbers saw the other post with JT's. Looks like she is pretty strong.
m4ck

Dyno results:
Max Power-273.5
Max Torque-345.0
Air Fuel Ratio 12.9-13.3

Temp-48
Hum-45%

Crank-347 HP
432 TQ

My graph he gave me isn't dark enough to scan. I'll try to mess with it later.
This is the first dyno I've ever seen. Had a blast!! I have cool video and pics I'll put up later. It was the Tulsa SVT Dyno Day, so I got to see some really cool Cobras and Lightings, but didn't get to see a Lighting on the Dyno. Had to come home to get some sleep.
After my last run, the Dyno guy gets out of the truck and says "You wanna sell your truck??" It was his first Titan and It will be on his web site next week. :happy:
I'll go back after I get the resonators removed.

Nice numbers baja.....thanks for doing the "before" dyno. This will be interesting to see the gains by removing the resos when you get it done.

My brother asked me to come along for their vette dyno run that he and his buddies will be doing soon. Should be a blast, as they all have mid-60's vettes, and most are running built motors. I'll feel kinda funny with my Nissan, but hey, it's all fun!

Nice numbers baja.....thanks for doing the "before" dyno. This will be interesting to see the gains by removing the resos when you get it done.

My brother asked me to come along for their vette dyno run that he and his buddies will be doing soon. Should be a blast, as they all have mid-60's vettes, and most are running built motors. I'll feel kinda funny with my Nissan, but hey, it's all fun!

I've got pics of my Nissan in the middle of Cobras and Lightings. Pretty funny

Nice numbers baja.....thanks for doing the "before" dyno. This will be interesting to see the gains by removing the resos when you get it done.

My brother asked me to come along for their vette dyno run that he and his buddies will be doing soon. Should be a blast, as they all have mid-60's vettes, and most are running built motors. I'll feel kinda funny with my Nissan, but hey, it's all fun!

I've got pics of my Nissan in the middle of Cobras and Lightings. Pretty funny

Cool....I'd love to see those pics! I imagine it'll feel similar to when I used to go to a mc rally on a japenese or german bike. You get used to getting looks from the HD guys! At least I know most of these vette guys, and they're not snobs, like some I've met. They're basically just a bunch of gear heads!

great numbers baja, i love to see those torque #'s that our trucks can throw down. cant wait to see the video 8)

Here they are:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/chcltbrthr/t20.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/QShip/dynosheet.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/chcltbrthr/ttttt.jpg

Qship, why the power drop from dyno run 1 to dyno run 2??

Nevermind, I see you dyno in different gears.

Good numbers!

No disrepect, but is it me or does anyone else think that posting a"supposed" crank hp/tq number is meaningless?!?! No one knows the exact drivetrain loss, and who really cares what the engine makes? It is all about what is put to the ground.

No disrepect, but is it me or does anyone else think that posting a"supposed" crank hp/tq number is meaningless?!?! No one knows the exact drivetrain loss, and who really cares what the engine makes? It is all about what is put to the ground.LOL! I understand what you're saying. I only care what is being made at the wheel.

Dyno results:
Max Power-273.5
Max Torque-345.0
Air Fuel Ratio 12.9-13.3

Temp-48
Hum-45%

Crank-347 HP
432 TQ

My graph he gave me isn't dark enough to scan. I'll try to mess with it later.
This is the first dyno I've ever seen. Had a blast!! I have cool video and pics I'll put up later. It was the Tulsa SVT Dyno Day, so I got to see some really cool Cobras and Lightings, but didn't get to see a Lighting on the Dyno. Had to come home to get some sleep.
After my last run, the Dyno guy gets out of the truck and says "You wanna sell your truck??" It was his first Titan and It will be on his web site next week. :happy:
I'll go back after I get the resonators removed.

Right on! Your HP numbers seem on par with most but that torque number rocks! Good deal!

No disrepect, but is it me or does anyone else think that posting a"supposed" crank hp/tq number is meaningless?!?! No one knows the exact drivetrain loss, and who really cares what the engine makes? It is all about what is put to the ground.

Wheel numbers are what wins races! I agree. And if you have any doubt, just look at the HEMI. 345HP at the motor? The engineers need to go back to the drawing board and figure out why they are loosing so much through the drivetrain.

No disrepect, but is it me or does anyone else think that posting a"supposed" crank hp/tq number is meaningless?!?! No one knows the exact drivetrain loss, and who really cares what the engine makes? It is all about what is put to the ground.

Wheel numbers are what wins races! I agree. And if you have any doubt, just look at the HEMI. 345HP at the motor? The engineers need to go back to the drawing board and figure out why they are loosing so much through the drivetrain.

Either that, or the number is just more hype...

Either that, or the number is just more hype...So that would be 345 hype power instead of horse power. :lol: I do have a curiosity question. If you removed the tailgate and spare tire on the trucks would the reduction in weight on the rear wheels affect the dyno results?

[/quote]So that would be 345 hype power instead of horse power.[/quote]

LOL!! That's a good one!

Dyno results:
Max Power-273.5
Max Torque-345.0
Air Fuel Ratio 12.9-13.3

Temp-48
Hum-45%

Crank-347 HP
432 TQ

My graph he gave me isn't dark enough to scan. I'll try to mess with it later.
This is the first dyno I've ever seen. Had a blast!! I have cool video and pics I'll put up later. It was the Tulsa SVT Dyno Day, so I got to see some really cool Cobras and Lightings, but didn't get to see a Lighting on the Dyno. Had to come home to get some sleep.
After my last run, the Dyno guy gets out of the truck and says "You wanna sell your truck??" It was his first Titan and It will be on his web site next week. :happy:
I'll go back after I get the resonators removed.

Here's the pics and videos I promiced 10 days ago from SVT Dyno Day. The White Cobra is my Titans Girlfriend. :lol:

I'll try the videos, but I don't think it will work.

Nope, didn't work. Anybody know how to get em on??

Guess I was expecting more from the Volant but oh well. Also notice the shine on my baby too. :D
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/slurppie/scan2_small.jpg

That doesn't look too bad to me, Slurppie. Your max hp may have been down by a couple, but you got significant gains in hp and torque where it matters, between roughly 3200-4200rpm. Nice!

:thumbsup:

Hey there slurp dude.....those gains are actually more then what I thought would show up. Ta heck with the horsepower, the torque is where it's at.....Did you leave the T/B spacer on for this run or did you remove it??

I left the TB spacer on for this go around. I thought about maybe going back in a week or two without the TB spacer just to see if there is any difference.

Man, you guys make me feel poor! Makes me want to open a dyno shop!

Man, you guys make me feel poor! Makes me want to open a dyno shop!

I hear ya! It's about $75 a pop where I've been going....this gets the dyno for about 1/2 hr, though. Also, the shop is only about 3 mins from my house. My brother's corvette buddy is buying a used dynojet, supposedly, so I'm hopin' he'll give me the 'good guy' discount rate!

I left the TB spacer on for this go around. I thought about maybe going back in a week or two without the TB spacer just to see if there is any difference.

Very interesting dyno there. I'm curious to find out if the gains in the midrange are from the TB spacer or Volant intake. What's puzzling me is the upper end. I'm aware that adding a spacer would reduce a little top end for a gain down low so adding the Volant should have kept the peak HP about the same or even higher. Most intakes add to the upper end, but on this one it's as if no intake system was added at all. So I guess a dyno without the TB spacer will answer some questions.

BTW, that is a healthy gain in torque!

Well here they are. All numbers are corrected. I got pretty much what I expected. I tell ya, there are some impressed people over at JBA. I guess they didn't expect it to put down the numbers. Oh well we all know the truth. So enjoy!!

Cripes, man.....382 tq??!! That's the highest torque by a long shot, that I think any of us have seen. I'm not familiar with the Dyno Dynamics dynomometer.....what type is it? Thanks...

That torque number is sweet Ryan_L. 8) Are you going to get a 1/4-mile time at some point?

Why is the gear ratio listed so high? Are you sure they ran it right? No offense but having a peak hp number at 4300rpm is contrary to even stock, let alone with the headers and CAI. And the torque is about 40 more than most people with the same mods. Just doesn't add up to me. I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything but it just looks a lot different than some of the curves that I've seen to date on stock and modded titans.

MMMMMM That's a good catch there Head. I didn't even notice that. I am going back up to the shop tomarrow and I will ask about that gear ratio display.

If you go look at mine, I think they messed mine up here in Houston. It says I'm making 90-some odd more hp with the nitrous but my timeslips are still only showing about 55hp when you put it into a calculator. I asked them about mine and they didn't have an answer. By any chance did you baseline before the headers?

No I didn't get a baseline run before the headers. I went to do that and they could not get me in and then I had the install like two days after that. But I was guessing that all the trucks were about the same stock so I didn't much worry about it. Now as far as that gear ratio display on the dyno sheet goes. That is the ratio that the dyno rollers are running at and has nothing to do with the trucks driveline.

If you go look at mine, I think they messed mine up here in Houston. It says I'm making 90-some odd more hp with the nitrous but my timeslips are still only showing about 55hp when you put it into a calculator. I asked them about mine and they didn't have an answer. By any chance did you baseline before the headers?
I may have an answer to this one, tell me what you think. Our trucks make a ton of power down low, but really die off on the top end. When you're racing I imagine you keep it floored, in which case it'll shift around 6k.then drop, say 1000 rpm for the next gear.Most of your run is being made way above the HP peak...maybe the average gain from the nitrous up there is only 55 HP even though peak gain is 90. What do you think??

I'm not sure if your theory is correct rex but it's the best one I've read so far. Good thinking... :thumbsup:

Gentleman,
I'll weigh in here. I think that RPM range of the truck is a great consideration. My suspicion is that while dyno #'s will show us "x" amount of gain. That number won't correlate well with a calculated number because while on a dyno a vehicle isn't working against an aerodynamic load. And therin lies the difference.

Second, Nissan designed these engines as truck engines with a broad flat torque curve. If memory serves peak stock HP is somewhere around 4.9K RPM. Remember that torque numbers will always exceed HP numbers below 5252rpm. So spinning the engine to six grand is really wasting time and energy so to speak. Ideally one would want to shift right at or just slightly above peak HP RPM and repeat as necessary. While these engines do sound good at 5.5-6.0 RPM I don't see the benefit of spinning the engine to that RPM because the engine really isn't making that much power at that RPM. So why Nissan programmed the transmission to shift that high is a great mystery to me.

Third, I question the ability of the stock exhaust manifolds to provide enough flow to support 400 plus horsepower at the crank. Think of it this way 305HP stock plus "x" amount of additional air flow from easy mods(say Volant and Banks), plus the additional airflow from forced induction like N2O or SC kit is going to require a big exhaust. Having built a few engines with 450+ HP I can safely say that engines in that output range require balanced length headers(with at least 1-5/8" or better primaries and 3" collectors) with a good collector design and either no cats or high performance cats with 2.5 to 3" true dual exhaust all the way out. We can put a lot of air in, but if we can't get it out efficiently HP and torque numbers will suffer.
Regards,
Sam

Why is the gear ratio listed so high? Are you sure they ran it right? No offense but having a peak hp number at 4300rpm is contrary to even stock, let alone with the headers and CAI. And the torque is about 40 more than most people with the same mods. Just doesn't add up to me. I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything but it just looks a lot different than some of the curves that I've seen to date on stock and modded titans.

<sniff - sniff> Yep . . . Something doesn't smell right with that TQ number . . . I would advise against having dyno runs done by the manufacturer that produces the majority of your go fast goodies. I would like to see a run on a Dynojet from an independent shop. Let us know what you find out.

In defense of Ryan_L, I was talking to a buddy of mine, (another gearhead) and from what he tells me, the JBA shortys make a TON of torque...above and beyond what you get from a cat-back and intake. He's seen many dyno charts, mostly from mustangs and vettes, but also other trucks, and they make big torque #s on them all. As far as I know, this is the first dyno run posted from a truck with headers.

JetTech had his dyno done a good while back right after installing the headers. I don't think he was too impressed.
check with him I know he posted his dyno somewhere.
M4ck

M95Roadster and I dynoed today. The shops printer was broken so we will have to wait a few days for the graphs to come in the mail. I will post them then.

http://www.clubtitan.org/postt3669.html

OK I went back to the dyno but I have some odd results. HP went up on the motor, but down in torque. My nitrous numbers also dropped dramaticallly to where I thought they should have been all along. Not sure why this discrepancy happened but here's some numbers for you all to consume. I believe the numbers on the motor run and the nitrous runs for this trip. This is the same dyno I used last time. It is automatically corrected by the software.

Nice numbers, although I'm surprised your tq number is that low on your run w/o the nitrous? Was the nitrous run w/ a 50hp shot? I'll be going back to the dyno after the Volant and rear cat delete on mine....soon. Thanks for posting, Head.

Hey there head, I've been looking at your graphs since you posted them and can only come up with two theories. One is it appears the guy doing the dyno didn't engage the drums until too late in the rpm band which would explain your lower torque reading. The other theory I have is your new higher stall convertor is eating away at your hp in the higher rpm's.

Of course I'm just speculating here but those numbers look odd, especially the torque.

Did the transmission place install new clutch packs in the tranny along with modifying the valve body?? And have you been able to determine exactly when the convertor is locking up??

Here it is....finally.
Looks like the most gain is from 4800 to 5300 RPM. My air fuel ratio also changed.

Good stuff Deb, this is with the resonators removed right?

Good stuff Deb, this is with the resonators removed right?

Yep, that's the only difference between the 1st and 2nd dyno. Well, the TBS was on for this one too if that makes a difference.

That's a good bump in hp and torque baja. Thanks for doing this dyno and letting us know!!

One is it appears the guy doing the dyno didn't engage the drums until too late in the rpm band which would explain your lower torque reading.
Did the transmission place install new clutch packs in the tranny along with modifying the valve body?? And have you been able to determine exactly when the convertor is locking up??

I think he was revved to high to get a good torque number or like you say, he might have just engaged it late.
No new clutch packs - I just sent the valve body. I'm not sure when it is locking up but that function wasn't changed so I'm told. I'm just happy to see more power overall from the Volant and fans.

Still, I was happy to get 18hp from the last run with the addition of the Volant and electric fan conversion.

Posted by RyanL:

http://www.clubtitan.org/postlite5018-.html

I just got back from a dyno day session. Due to the overall diameter (3/4") being shorter and each wheel weighing 25lbs more than factory, they estimated I was losing anywhere from 10-20hp. I was going to dyno with the stock wheels, but I figured I don't roll with them so never mind. No big deal. Anyways, here's the printout of the dyno run.

Regretfully I don't have any pics or the dyno graph for validation, but the temps were ~85*F and 60% humidity...264hp/335tq.

We did this @ Polk Performance in Benton, AR as a fund raiser for a mutual friend that was a victim of Katrina in New Orleans. Dyno was free, just asked for donations to help him out. Once I get my exhaust, I will go back for a before/after comparison and I will try to remember to get the dyno graph from him.

Strapped her up to the dyno again today. This was my third trip since buying the truck almost a year ago. Thought you all might like to see the progression from almost stock (KN w/ airbox mod) to where I'm at now.

Note that on the last scan, I did a before/after ecu reset so you can see that there is some gains from doing this. I had just done a reset after installing the AFE a few days ago, and have been doing a lot of data logging with my foot into the pedal. So, the little bit of learning the ecu had done, prior to the reset I did tonight, was pretty aggressive...thus a smaller gain...if that makes any sense! The reset gave me my best dyno numbers so far, and this was on my 4th run tonight when the motor was the very heat soaked.

I also logged a bunch of data with my scan tool for all of the runs to send to Ron at ProAuto for the "black box" he'll be flashing for me ( I hope!).

I'm pretty happy with my results at this point, although I can't seem to get my torque above 333 no matter what I do.

Of note--All dynos were performed at the same shop/dyno/operator.

Here's the progression:

*Baseline* Dyno session #1:

Mods: K&N panel filter, airbox mod
HP: 253
TQ: 304

Dyno session #2:

Mods: K&N panel filter, airbox mod
AeroTurbine custom exhaust
HP: 260 (gain of 7)
TQ: 331 (gain of 27)

Dyno session #3:
Mods: AFE Stage II Intake, Airaid TBS, TB Coolant Bypass,
FM cat-back w/ Borla XS Muff, Rear cats deleted
HP: 281 (gain of 21)
TQ: 331 (no gain)

*After ecu reset:
HP: 285 (gain of 4)
TQ: 333 (gain of 2)

Total gains since initial baseline dyno:
HP: 32
TQ: 29

Not bad for a few bolt-ons!

I'd love for everyone to digest these and give me some feedback...please!

Thanks!

Those are some nice numbers Steve!

Those are some nice numbers Steve!

Grassy-***, muchacho! :D

Nice dyno post Rocky. Thinking of any other performance mods?

Hey Rocky, nice numbers!! It looks like your mods have pushed your torque and hp higher in the rev range. Are you noticing any loss of low end power?

Where is Dyno-pro located,what do they charge for a pull? awsome # Im assuming they are sae adjusted for altitude. Do you know the none corrected #s? The exhaust torque increase is impressive guess its time to look into that. Have you run it at Bandimere?

Strapped her up to the dyno again today. This was my third trip since buying the truck almost a year ago. Thought you all might like to see the progression from almost stock (KN w/ airbox mod) to where I'm at now.

Note that on the last scan, I did a before/after ecu reset so you can see that there is some gains from doing this. I had just done a reset after installing the AFE a few days ago, and have been doing a lot of data logging with my foot into the pedal. So, the little bit of learning the ecu had done, prior to the reset I did tonight, was pretty aggressive...thus a smaller gain...if that makes any sense! The reset gave me my best dyno numbers so far, and this was on my 4th run tonight when the motor was the very heat soaked.

I also logged a bunch of data with my scan tool for all of the runs to send to Ron at ProAuto for the "black box" he'll be flashing for me ( I hope!).

I'm pretty happy with my results at this point, although I can't seem to get my torque above 333 no matter what I do.

Of note--All dynos were performed at the same shop/dyno/operator.

Here's the progression:

*Baseline* Dyno session #1:

Mods: K&N panel filter, airbox mod
HP: 253
TQ: 304

Dyno session #2:

Mods: K&N panel filter, airbox mod
AeroTurbine custom exhaust
HP: 260 (gain of 7)
TQ: 331 (gain of 27)

Dyno session #3:
Mods: AFE Stage II Intake, Airaid TBS, TB Coolant Bypass,
FM cat-back w/ Borla XS Muff, Rear cats deleted
HP: 281 (gain of 21)
TQ: 331 (no gain)

*After ecu reset:
HP: 285 (gain of 4)
TQ: 333 (gain of 2)

Total gains since initial baseline dyno:
HP: 32
TQ: 29

Not bad for a few bolt-ons!

I'd love for everyone to digest these and give me some feedback...please!

Thanks!
What method did you use to reset the ECU?

What method did you use to reset the ECU?
There's write ups in the "Do it yourself" section http://www.clubtitan.org/forum14.html

Hey Rocky, nice numbers!! It looks like your mods have pushed your torque and hp higher in the rev range. Are you noticing any loss of low end power?

Yeah, it did push the power up in the range some, although, I have a feeling my dyno TQ numbers have been a little low since the very first one. My baseline TQ was only 304, quite a bit lower than most stock numbers I've seen...so I think mine may be closer to 345, or so instead of 333. I feel no loss in low end performance at all. :D

I've been wanting to try a different dyno shop, but for the sake of accurate comparisons with added mods, I felt I should stay with the same shop/dyno. If Ron (Proautoman) does this "black box" for me, then I'll do one final dyno with this same shop....but after that, I'll look for another dyno shop just to verify my numbers, especially the torque.

Where is Dyno-pro located,what do they charge for a pull? awsome # Im assuming they are sae adjusted for altitude. Do you know the none corrected #s? The exhaust torque increase is impressive guess its time to look into that. Have you run it at Bandimere?

Dyno Pro recently moved to 6231 Beach St, in Denver. Basically just a few blocks east of Federal & 64th ave. Bear is the owner....a real good guy. I think their pricing is a little high at $75, but that gets you the dyno for a full 1/2 hr...usually 4 or 5 runs, if needed.

All numbers are SAE corrected. He'll give you corrected or uncorrected...whatever you want. I need to go back and see if he'll give me the files so I can get accurate a/f ratios to look at. The way he scaled the graphs makes it tough to analyze, which is why I didn't post the afr's.

Where is Dyno-pro located,what do they charge for a pull? awsome # Im assuming they are sae adjusted for altitude. Do you know the none corrected #s? The exhaust torque increase is impressive guess its time to look into that. Have you run it at Bandimere?

Dyno Pro recently moved to 6231 Beach St, in Denver. Basically just a few blocks east of Federal & 64th ave. Bear is the owner....a real good guy. I think their pricing is a little high at $75, but that gets you the dyno for a full 1/2 hr...usually 4 or 5 runs, if needed.

All numbers are SAE corrected. He'll give you corrected or uncorrected...whatever you want. I need to go back and see if he'll give me the files so I can get accurate a/f ratios to look at. The way he scaled the graphs makes it tough to analyze, which is why I didn't post the afr's.

I've been to Bandimere several times this year. My best ET has been 16.12 sec....not bad considering the 5,800' elev which robs our motors of about 45-50 hp. Using the NHRA correction to sea level (.9276) puts it at 14.99 sec. I want to run at least once more before the season closes in Oct...I think some cooler temps might get me into the high 15's. Want to go?? It'd be nice to see another Titan up there for a change! I met rvt223 up there last time...he no longer has the Titan, but has a nice Ram 2500 CTD running mid 15's with an exhaust and programmer.

RMT - What is the DA where you are dynoing? I noticed you are in CO and I know that makes a difference on your numbers.

Thanks for the info. My mustang ran 14.68 @ 94 with a 6500'DA ( thats 13 sec flat at sea level). If you go up there on a 50 deg day you will be in the 15s for sure. I may try to sneak up there before hunting season. later

RMT - What is the DA where you are dynoing? I noticed you are in CO and I know that makes a difference on your numbers.

DA was about 8100'. Correction factor was 1.23, so HP was 232 (non-corrected) and 285 HP (corrected). Nothing like losing 53 HP! The price you pay to live a mile high!

Mod: Fujita Intake
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/7199/ma281305titan2jw.gif[/img]

dyno with stage 1 afe and flowmaster catback. my best was 276 hp and 338 torque to the wheels.

294rwhp 352 torque, volant, resonators replaced, banks exhaust.

Has anyone dynoed with a B&B exhaust I looked at this thread and did not see any maybe I overlooked it. Trying to decide on a B&B, borla or banks exhaust system? thanks

Haven't seen a dyno with the B&B, but I think any of the quality, mandrel-bent cat-back systems available will dyno within a couple HP of eachother.

My brother just put the B&B on his ZO6 Vette...what a monster! It drones badly in the cab, though...don't know about in the Titan. I know Qship and a few others have this exhaust...don't know if any have dynoed.

Supposedly, no drone with the B&B:

http://www.titantalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=311738&highlight=b%26b+drone#post311738

http://www.titantalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=279265&highlight=b%26b+drone#post279265

How many miles should you have on your truck before you take it to the Dyno for the first time? I want to start putting some mods on it, but I would also like to wait so I can get a stock dyno on it. I have just passed the break in mileage of 500 miles. I know it needs some more miles on it to get a true dyno run, but how much of a difference will that make?

How many miles should you have on your truck before you take it to the Dyno for the first time? I want to start putting some mods on it, but I would also like to wait so I can get a stock dyno on it. I have just passed the break in mileage of 500 miles. I know it needs some more miles on it to get a true dyno run, but how much of a difference will that make?

I would play it safe and hit the dyno after 1k miles.

Thanks! I just hit the 1200 mile mark, so I think I will get the oil changed and try to hit the dyno.

The only place that I know of around here that has a dyno is a Porsche shop, and the guy looked at me like I was an idiot to want to dyno a Titan. Oh well, different strokes for different folks I guess. 75 bucks for 3 runs.

Hey Knox -
I'm pretty sure you should wait until 3K. Not for any other reason than I think this is about the time I noticed that the truck really came ALIVE and the RPM's went nearer to redline and pulled a harder. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the ECU is preprogrammed at Nissan this way.

To prove my theory dyno now and then after 3+K some time. Be nice to know if some of the low dynos are actually a result of low mileage runs.

Thanks! I just hit the 1200 mile mark, so I think I will get the oil changed and try to hit the dyno.

The only place that I know of around here that has a dyno is a Porsche shop, and the guy looked at me like I was an idiot to want to dyno a Titan. Oh well, different strokes for different folks I guess. 75 bucks for 3 runs.
You should bring a camera. I bet those guy's jaws will drop when they see the numbers on your stock Titan :wink:

Thanks! I just hit the 1200 mile mark, so I think I will get the oil changed and try to hit the dyno.

The only place that I know of around here that has a dyno is a Porsche shop, and the guy looked at me like I was an idiot to want to dyno a Titan. Oh well, different strokes for different folks I guess. 75 bucks for 3 runs.
You should bring a camera. I bet those guy's jaws will drop when they see the numbers on your stock Titan :wink:

hey knox i had my truck dynoed at the porsche shop. its called air cooled kustoms. the guy was pretty impressed and was really cool. i live about an hour away in gatlinburg, tn. i think i paid 50 for 3 runs though. i told him i would be back and he said it would be the same price. the shop im talkin about is off lovell rd.

Yes that is the same place. The guy acted kind of strange to me. He said we only do it by appointment and some other stuff, but oh well I guess it was one of those days. I think I am going to try to do it this Friday. I just got my intake in so I want to put it on, but I also want to do a before and after. I wanted to do it stock, but the mod bug hit me and I put on the dual flowmasters, so it will not be a completely stock run. I will post as soon as I get it done. I can't wait.

If somone would by my system,,,,,,,got_titan,,,,,, I would have to money to do a couple of runs...... jk

Dyno tomorrow at 3. I will post the results as soon as I get back. I have never done a dyno run before, so you all will have to help me out with the readings.

I am kind of disappointed with my dyno today. The temp was about 45 and the humidity was around 40. I will post the dyno sheet tomorrow when I get to work. Here were my results though.
HP TORQUE
1ST RUN 269.9 331.2
2ND RUN 266.7 324.4
3RD RUN 264.5 319.4

My AFR is a straight line all on all 3 runs from about 3.7 RPM through 5.5. It runs around 13 on the AFR.

Think my HP is down a little. But that could be because it only has 2000 miles on it.

What do you all think?

Here is the dyno sheet.

Im new to this forum and enjoy reading all of the posts. I bought a new 06 Titan 4x4 SE last Monday and love it. Are the #s your getting from just the intake and exhaust or are more parts needed. Thanks for your help.




Your torque numbers are impressive. I think the Exhaust helped the Volant air intake. You may not have seen as much without it. Makes me want to duplicate your mods. I think Gibson is coming out with a 3" single exhaust that would interest me. What are the Titans running SAE net bone stock??

Thanks I thought so...your exactly right. The two mods compliment one another so well. It's almost as if one needs the other for maximim gain and they do.

Interesting A Gibson 3". Like a Banks...

Titans HP SAE is 305.

The TiTans torque SAE 379. I like the looks of 427 a lot better :D

hers mine withe the stillen

How much droning are you guys getting in the cab from the different exhausts. I have a nissan 200sx with exhaust and it is loud so I dont want that in the truck so much. Thanks.

Well, I hit 299.35 RWHP. AEM w/Dryflow and Magnaflow Exhaust.

Well, I hit 299.35 RWHP. AEM w/Dryflow and Magnaflow Exhaust.

Righteous!

Thats what I'm talkin' about! 8O

Have you gotten the timing advanced yet?

What are all on your mods, just a intake and exhaust???

Here is a link to mine and we are not done with it yet. Many more toys to come in.

http://www.clubtitan.org/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=509&pos=10

Here is a link to mine and we are not done with it yet. Many more toys to come in.

http://www.clubtitan.org/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=509&pos=10

The HP looks right...but 383 RWTQ!!!!!!!!!!!!! If that is a corect number your truck is smoking!!!

Torque is 363 not 383. Maybe someday, but not yet.

Torque is 363 not 383. Maybe someday, but not yet.


Still not sure I have seen a Titan over 340 rwtq...non-SC'd that is.

Check page 1, 6, 8 and 9 of this post and there are a few over 340 and one on this page just a touch over 350. If you look at my printouts from the computer (pictures in my members gallery), I got my air/fuel ratio leaned out by over 10% and got the timing bumped to 18*. Sorry if you don't think that it is right. I only scanned what I brought home.

Check page 1, 6, 8 and 9 of this post and there are a few over 340 and one on this page just a touch over 350. If you look at my printouts from the computer (pictures in my members gallery), I got my air/fuel ratio leaned out by over 10% and got the timing bumped to 18*. Sorry if you don't think that it is right. I only scanned what I brought home.

Nooooooo....not doubting what you put...just stating your truck is running pretty well with your mods.

So how did you get your AF ratio leaned out???? Did the dealer do this for you??? Or was there another way...I'll have to look again..what was your AF ratio??

Here is a link to mine and we are not done with it yet. Many more toys to come in.

http://www.clubtitan.org/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=509&pos=10


Damn you do have a pretty good AF ratio right around 12!!! Ok...do tell...how did you get it there!!!

:devil: hehehe Consult II. I will get my sheet out in the morning and post the code. How is that?

:devil: hehehe Consult II. I will get my sheet out in the morning and post the code. How is that?

Works for me cause I'll be taking a print out of it to every dealer within 100 miles until I find one willing to do it for me!!!

My secret is I have a guy that specializes in speed tuning and does cars and trucks from all over the country. He knows his stuff more than anyone I have been around (when it comes to performance mods) and I have 23 mechanics that work for me. He has learned how to make technology work with the vehicles engine and is brilliant.

Here is my stock dyno sheet.

Lots of good looking numbers guys. I can't wait to get home and start the mods back up. She dynoed 274 with just the intake. Hopefully someone will have cracked the computer by the time I decide to get serious with it.

How much did MC charge for the runs FlimFlamMan?

Lots of good looking numbers guys. I can't wait to get home and start the mods back up. She dynoed 274 with just the intake. Hopefully someone will have cracked the computer by the time I decide to get serious with it.

How much did MC charge for the runs FlimFlamMan?

They charge $45 for 3 pulls.

However, it is $20 extra for A/F logging (I was not aware of that till I got there).

So it cost $65. Still not to shabby.

Hopefully someone will have cracked the computer by the time I decide to get serious with it.

I've cracked it.

Well, I hit 299.35 RWHP. AEM w/Dryflow and Magnaflow Exhaust.

w/ just intake and exhaust?

Hey shailey, throw on an electric fan conversion and i gaurentee youll be in the 14.4 range. Youd be suprised how much that heavy clutch and fan lag down the motor at high Rpms. By the way would you suggest retarding or advancing the timing 2 degrees such as you did but at 4400 elevation and after getting an intake and exhaust. Or is this an adjustment only worthwhile at sea level or with ECU tuning? I opted for the 100k warrenty so I would hate to mess with the settings etc if it could mess things up or void the warrenty.

I am around 17 only at idle which is good. However, at wide open throttle I am in the 11.5 to 11.8 range. That is pretty lean for our motor so I do not want to richen it back up again.

Now then, advance the timing. Do not worry about the warranty, the vehicle has a tolerance on the timing that will not let you do anything that will hurt it and all of this is within factory specifications.

The stock timing at idle is 15* +/- 5*, but it will still only let you move it 2* from where you are from the factory. So you cannot take it outside the timing that is allowed by the factory. Timing advance is always good, no matter what the elevation. One thing that I have found out over the last couple of weeks which will help you (being in the higher elevation) out. The truck WILL change settings on its own according to elevation. If it senses the need for more fuel or less air, it will do it. So regardless of what you do to the ecm, it will change if it thinks that it canhurt the truck.

My settings changed one day when I was on signal mountain. I heard a loud ticking from the engine, the rpm's slightly raised for a second, then the ticking went away and the rpms when back down.

BUT, when I returned to lower elevation I checked it and the ecm was back to where it was programmed to be. So you will be fine.

Now off to do the mods. Talk to you guys tonight.

Here is my dyno with stock and mod comparison (Banks and Injen).

Here are the results from a couple of rear wheel dyno runs I had done recently.

SAE Corrected = 287 HP & 342 TQ
Uncorrected = 293 HP & 349 TQ

Equipment: Dynojet 248c

Mods or settings that had potential to affect results: Flowmaster American Thunder dual exhaust w/ 70 Series muffler; Stock 2WD resonators replaced with Magnaflow bullet mufflers (2.5"); AEM Dryflow intake; Nitto tires (55 lbs each); 87 octane; VDC was "on"; ECU reset done one week prior

Here are my Dynos:

http://www.clubtitan.org/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=145620#145620

Black Box installed - Dyno 288/339 hp before - 293/352 hp after

What are these trucks runnin bone stock. I think i'm gonna take it down to the track tomorrow. I was really impressed at the git up of this thing for being a big 4 door. If i run i 15 ill be very very impressed. Of course it not like runnin 12s but thats why i got the SS :D

What are these trucks runnin bone stock. I think i'm gonna take it down to the track tomorrow. I was really impressed at the git up of this thing for being a big 4 door. If i run i 15 ill be very very impressed. Of course it not like runnin 12s but thats why i got the SS :D

There i go freakin double postin already :evil:

Bone stock on the crew cab is being reported between 15.5 to 15.9. There have been a couple of king cabs that have been low in the 15's bone stock.

See my sig for my time. I'm not bone stock.. but I'm not runnin' a supercharger either. Haha

On a side note, that was my first trip to the track ever. I'm sure I can improve that time a little with some more practice.... and traction.

Read it and weep!!!

298 rwhp and 359 rwtq

Sorry SoBe,

Read this and Weep!!

305hp/371trq

Can someone add me to the list. I have the dyno sheet on my home compueter. I'll post it tonight!

hmm 4x4 and no BT?

Lucy, chu have some esplaining to do!

lol...

I wish I had the answer to the secret, I'd bottle it and sell it!!

I'm going to add a CAI and see if I can't get above 310 without losing torque...

My munbers were pretty pitiful cosidering my mods.
286hp and 325trq.
Conditions were 85deg 100% humidity(see attachment)

I had only 2346 miles at dyno time, original oil, 4x4 O/R, BT :AEM(dry filter), Banks monster, Tornado fuel saver(JAMMED in the AEM Tube 1" Before Throttle body-Cheap TB spacer I guess, both spin air), Eco 2, Timing adv 2deg
33x12.5r18 Terra Grapplers on chromed Nissan "Armada" SE 5 spokes running 40psi

I've heard the banks takes trq away, and the mileage and the oil hurt me too.

Didn't nissan switch to synth rear oil? I'm pretty sure they did, but just asking.

Does anyone make synth Type J tranny oil? What's in the transfer case?
Just asking to see what else "little" I can do to get some more out of her. I'm looking at Grounding Kits. Any opinions?

dyno from the nj meet....pretty happy with the intake change

GT, you and me the only ones still up!(1:44am est). You forgot to change your sig, still have Volant on there.

thanks....ill change it

My munbers were pretty pitiful cosidering my mods.
286hp and 325trq.
Conditions were 85deg 100% humidity(see attachment)

I had only 2346 miles at dyno time, original oil, 4x4 O/R, BT :AEM(dry filter), Banks monster, Tornado fuel saver(JAMMED in the AEM Tube 1" Before Throttle body-Cheap TB spacer I guess, both spin air), Eco 2, Timing adv 2deg
33x12.5r18 Terra Grapplers on chromed Nissan "Armada" SE 5 spokes running 40psi

I've heard the banks takes trq away, and the mileage and the oil hurt me too.

Didn't nissan switch to synth rear oil? I'm pretty sure they did, but just asking.

Does anyone make synth Type J tranny oil? What's in the transfer case?
Just asking to see what else "little" I can do to get some more out of her. I'm looking at Grounding Kits. Any opinions?



I'd be willing to bet that if you lost the Tornado you'd gain 5-10 horses. Those things are the performance equivalent of stuffing a rag in the airbox.

I had only 2346 miles at dyno time, original oil, 4x4 O/R, BT :AEM(dry filter), Banks monster, Tornado fuel saver(JAMMED in the AEM Tube 1" Before Throttle body-Cheap TB spacer I guess, both spin air), Eco 2, Timing adv 2deg
33x12.5r18 Terra Grapplers on chromed Nissan "Armada" SE 5 spokes running 40psi

I've heard the banks takes trq away, and the mileage and the oil hurt me too.

Didn't nissan switch to synth rear oil? I'm pretty sure they did, but just asking.

Does anyone make synth Type J tranny oil? What's in the transfer case?
Just asking to see what else "little" I can do to get some more out of her. I'm looking at Grounding Kits. Any opinions?

I don't think the Banks will take away torque. It seems to be a good exhaust. But yes, the oil and mileage hurt you.
Dump the tornado, and get a few more miles on her, then try again.

I'm thinking about it, or at least relocating/modifying it.

Any answers on the fluid questions or the grounding kit?

I can't answer the tranny question. As far as the rear end stuff, it should be synthetic. I believe Nissan changed that in the '05's, late in the model year.

As for the grounding kit, some say yes, and some say, they're not sure. I just ordered one, so, we'll see...

I just finished putting up the dyno video. Enjoy.

http://s53.photobucket.com/albums/g75/Hivoltage23k/?action=view&current=TitanDyno.flv

Dyno'd mine last saturday in Raleigh, N.C.
Weather was kinda ****ty been raining for the past 14-15 hrs and was still raining when I pulled onto the dyno..
Temp was : 76 Deg.
Humidity was 87%
Dyno'd in 3rd gear with supreme unleaded gas
303 RWHP / 355 TQ

My munbers were pretty pitiful cosidering my mods.
286hp and 325trq.
Conditions were 85deg 100% humidity(see attachment)

I had only 2346 miles at dyno time, original oil, 4x4 O/R, BT :AEM(dry filter), Banks monster, Tornado fuel saver(JAMMED in the AEM Tube 1" Before Throttle body-Cheap TB spacer I guess, both spin air), Eco 2, Timing adv 2deg
33x12.5r18 Terra Grapplers on chromed Nissan "Armada" SE 5 spokes running 40psi

I've heard the banks takes trq away, and the mileage and the oil hurt me too.

Didn't nissan switch to synth rear oil? I'm pretty sure they did, but just asking.

Does anyone make synth Type J tranny oil? What's in the transfer case?
Just asking to see what else "little" I can do to get some more out of her. I'm looking at Grounding Kits. Any opinions?
You're running 33's. That's a whole lot more weight than stock rims/tires...

I went to a small dyno day on the 18th and I was fairly impressed. He did a 3rd gear run and a 4th gear run, I couldn't remember which one RB's told me to use. Apparently it's 4th because that was the best at 257.1HP and 307.5 TQ. It was also the second run so if he had run it in 4th the first time when it was cool I probably would have hit 260 or a little more. Now this is an Australian Dyno Dynamics rig which reads like a Mustang dyno so he said I need to add 15% to get the numbers I would if it had been a Dyno Jet model. So that's 295.7HP and 353.6 TQ. My only mods are a Volant breather and a Banks exhaust.

You're running 33's. That's a whole lot more weight than stock rims/tires...

Same size height wise as the stock O/R BFG tires, just an inch+ wider. I'm sure they're heavier.

The banks is too free flowing, thus robbing trq through lack of backpressure. I don't know how that is, it just is.

The active tuning meet in july will have a mobile dyno, I may run her again, just to see where she's at after the tornado move and alteration, the Eco#3(swapped out the Eco #2) and mobile one.

Same size height wise as the stock O/R BFG tires, just an inch+ wider. I'm sure they're heavier.

The banks is too free flowing, thus robbing trq through lack of backpressure. I don't know how that is, it just is.

The active tuning meet in july will have a mobile dyno, I may run her again, just to see where she's at after the tornado move and alteration, the Eco#3(swapped out the Eco #2) and mobile one.

Not sure where you got that Banks info but most of the higher number titans are running on banks. I think your main prob are those tires. They are not speed rated and the tread is a bit more agressive. Find a set of stockers and you will see those numbers where they should be.

also get rid of this stuff on dyno day "Tornado fuel saver(JAMMED in the AEM Tube 1" Before Throttle body-Cheap TB spacer I guess, both spin air), Eco 2,"

also yes you can go full synthetic - mobil one or royal purple or amsoil.

Same size height wise as the stock O/R BFG tires, just an inch+ wider. I'm sure they're heavier.

The banks is too free flowing, thus robbing trq through lack of backpressure. I don't know how that is, it just is.

The active tuning meet in july will have a mobile dyno, I may run her again, just to see where she's at after the tornado move and alteration, the Eco#3(swapped out the Eco #2) and mobile one.


You have to remember rob, it'll be HOT and they probably won't have fans, so your numbers will be low. I just had mine done last week, in the heat and humidity, plus conservative driving, and mine was 285/330. WAY down from my run in NJ. I may even try putting the stock airbox back on w/ the Airraid, and see how that works.

if I had more time, I was thinking of putting my stock pipes back on with just the banks muffler-which is pretty much a straight pipe-, just to see if there's a torque improvement. I think returning to the 2 1/2" pipes instead of the 3" with the banks will give me some pressure back, but still flow well. BTW, I think my 04 was faster than the 06 I have now, with just the K&N drop-in, tornado and a tonneau. But that was well broken in. I think there was a guy at the Jersey meet that was stock and got better numbers than me. How embarrassing!

Ya it will be hot, and not sure if I want to drop another 60 to be embarrassed, but we're limited by whats available.

You going to that meet, Buzzkillwill?

I might make it...

trust me dont mess with the banks. ask buzzkill. your prob is those tires, the temp and humidity, and that tornado rig. at the meet swap tires with someone and then run the dyno. Also use 93 octane for a couple tanksfulls before the dyno run. trust me dont mess with the banks.

I had premium in the tank with TWO bottles of 108 boost. I'm not putting my stocks back on till winter. Too much aggrevation, especially with the TPS's.

Buzzkill, how about the Active tuning meet in MD july 29th?

I had premium in the tank with TWO bottles of 108 boost. I'm not putting my stocks back on till winter. Too much aggrevation, especially with the TPS's.

Buzzkill, how about the Active tuning meet in MD july 29th?

AH HA! There is your problem. The 108 boost. Too much octane is not good. One of the techie guys here figured that out. Do a search on octane.

Holy cow i beat Shailey to that one... lol

found it - and it is Shaileys investigation. lol I beat him to his own findings. lol

http://www.clubtitan.org/forums/showthread.php?t=14945 scroll to post#9

That's right. from now on dyno's on 93 only. Still debating on getting a dyno done at the active tuning meet in MD. I think I,ll do much better this time.

Mine may be low too, it was a VERY hot and very humid day in Louisiana when I made my run, and it was on 87 octane too.

well, just got back from the active tuning meet and thought I would post some numbers for everyone to comment on
first pass 261.66 hp 313.15 tq
second pass 256.78 hp 307.89 tq

air temp 94 degrees
mercury 29.57 inches
humididty 43%

only mod is banks exhaust
oem oil needs a change about 500 miles ago
approx 7000 miles on truck

well, just got back from the active tuning meet and thought I would post some numbers for everyone to comment on
first pass 261.66 hp 313.15 tq
second pass 256.78 hp 307.89 tq

air temp 94 degrees
mercury 29.57 inches
humididty 43%

only mod is banks exhaust
oem oil needs a change about 500 miles ago
approx 7000 miles on truck

Awesome - finally a new dyno.

You REALLY need a CAI to get the most out of your Banks or any exhaust.

7000 and you still have oem oil AHHH!!!

One mod at a time my good man, one mod at a time.....
time for intake, tbs and syn oil then back to the dyno in NJ I hope, or in Oct. in Md

06 SRT10 Quad Stock 427 RWHP and 456 RWTQ

06 SRT10 Quad Stock 427 RWHP and 456 RWTQ

Nice!!!!!!

Awesome - finally a new dyno.

You REALLY need a CAI to get the most out of your Banks or any exhaust.

7000 and you still have oem oil AHHH!!!

They also started his dyno a little high. You should start a Titan just above 3K....not at 3700~ You may have missed some TQ numbers for this.

Ok for those of you wanting to know what the truck really pulls in 1:1 here ya go. Stock Map. Mods Intake exhaust...speed limiter removed by UpRev.

Ok for those of you wanting to know what the truck really pulls in 1:1 here ya go. Stock Map. Mods Intake exhaust...speed limiter removed by UpRev.

UPREV can remove the speed limiter?

UPREV can remove the speed limiter?

Yep the truck hit 134 in that dyno bud...I had them come out of it as my all season highway tires with kevlar are only rated to 130.

Guess what else they do...Big time low end gains. See next post.

For sale...lots of lift suspension products. I have a need for speed....

God that makes me jealous!!!

Yep the truck hit 134 in that dyno bud...I had them come out of it as my all season highway tires with kevlar are only rated to 130.

Guess what else they do...Big time low end gains. See next post. NO Sh!ttin'? Do tell more. PLEASE!! PS: my tires are V rated

This dyno shows 3 runs using maps provided by UpRev on my truck. Green is stock map and blue is aggressive map. Everyone can benefit from this mod!

We now need those cams to hit the market to help out after 4700.

NO Sh!ttin'? Do tell more. PLEASE!!

Sobe visit the thread in performance section.

Chicks - keep the parts just raffle a cover(s) to get the speed fundage...LOL

Am I gonna need to come to Texas to be tuned? Is this a piggy back system....dang I need to know more!

Come get u some HEMI or SS


http://bellsouthpwp.net/m/a/markislive/latest.jpg

Went to the dyno this morning for the first time. Here is the third and best run. Mods are intake, exhaust and timing advance.

Max Power = 281.75
Max Torque = 348.79

Im ready for you whenever you are.......
http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/ugotmale2day/?action=view&current=DSCN1939.flv

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a104/NORCALSTI/SS/th_ss_0001.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a104/NORCALSTI/SS/?action=view&current=ss_0001.flv)

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I'm thinking that a SUV starting with 391 hp stock should defiantly spank us down the track. It's not rocket science buddy. With a few performance mods that are readily available to you you should be running 12-13 1/4 miles.

Your truck was built off the line to be fast. It's a nice truck for sure. :)

i'm not scared i got n20,lol

Im ready for you whenever you are.......
I smell a troll.

MarkisAlive mentioned something about " come get us boys " and also mentioned the word SS ABOVE?? Jus had to defend a bit.....

MarkisAlive mentioned something about " come get us boys " and also mentioned the word SS ABOVE?? Jus had to defend a bit.....Fair enough, I didn't notice Marks comment. But with a screen name like that, you are asking for trouble. Just my .02.

MarkisAlive mentioned something about " come get us boys " and also mentioned the word SS ABOVE?? Jus had to defend a bit.....
You have a very nice truck, and are welcome to join us here. But you sure could have selected a better user name. With a name like that you are sure to offend many here; just as it would if one of us joined a Chevy forum with a name like "Eats-Chevy SS". Why don't you select a new user name and keep checking in with us? I can change your name for you.

lol i'd change his name to Loves titanswishiwouldabought1

You have a very nice truck, and are welcome to join us here. But you sure could have selected a better user name. With a name like that you are sure to offend many here; just as it would if one of us joined a Chevy forum with a name like "Eats-Chevy SS". Why don't you select a new user name and keep checking in with us? I can change your name for you.

He wouldn't be in here if he didn't think we were competition. I was refering to a real truck like a Silverado SS. Not hard to make a "little" truck go fast with a big motor. That little thing would buckle trying to tow what I tow. Imagine a Titan motor in something that small

Im ready for you whenever you are.......
http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/ugotmale2day/?action=view&current=DSCN1939.flv


I thought this was a dyno thread? Atleast post one...Eats Me.....Geez.
:thumbsdown-big:

That little thing would buckle trying to tow what I tow. Imagine a Titan motor in something that small

Not to wanting to continue the hijack, but.
The TBSS is a great tow vehicle, and why would you put a smaller Titan motor with 100 less HP in the TBSS??? And yess it is only rated for 6,500lbs, but that has more to do with wheelbase than anything else.

Great, another one....

Not to wanting to continue the hijack, but.
The TBSS is a great tow vehicle, and why would you put a smaller Titan motor with 100 less HP in the TBSS??? And yess it is only rated for 6,500lbs, but that has more to do with wheelbase than anything else.

OK let’s get this str8. You want to talk HP. Why don't we talk Tq, it’s a heavy truck right? After all that is what makes a Titan so fast in the 1st place or get’s a big boat moving. I'm making about 450lbs Tq at the flywheel (375rwTq) if we consider the drive train lost in a domestic truck. What does your ride make in the Tq dept? That’s why those diesels are so fast when modded… Tq baby, not an overwelming amount of horses there. If I hooked up back to back with a TBSS I would pull it all over the place due to a bigger/heavy platform. The point is I would never feel good towing 6,500lbs with such a small frame…. power is not the only thing needed to tow. If you don't have a big/solid platform the motor doesn't matter. I could tow 8,000+lb RV if I wanted to in my Titan but wouldn’t feel safe doing so. I will leave that to a ¾ ton, catch my drift?

No mods other than a $350 tune and I made 349rwhp and 370rwtq. If you were in 2wd like me (apples to apples) you would loose due to me having more weight over the rear tires. I have an 05 Titan EC work truck that I put over 95,000 miles on it in just 1 year and two months, so I know what they are capeble of. My TBSS tows my 20 ft bassboat just fine.

No mods other than a $350 tune and I made 349rwhp and 370rwtq. If you were in 2wd like me (apples to apples) you would loose due to me having more weight over the rear tires. I have an 05 Titan EC work truck that I put over 95,000 miles on it in just 1 year and two months, so I know what they are capeble of. My TBSS tows my 20 ft bassboat just fine.

Come on man a Trailblazer will never tow or pull with Titan back to back. You know we are competion or you wouldn't be in here. Quit being biased just cause you own one. Your work Titan is not my Titan dude i've added about 65-75 rwhp and 75rwTq with only bolt on's and a better diff posi.I am heavier and have more "low" end, your Tq is close but your motor makes Tq at a higher rpm...I am 2wd let's hook them up, I'm ready! I can run with you 0-60 just your light weight will get me at the end. What's your pay load...lol?

Peak TQ is reached below 3000 rpm and stays flat through 5400 befor falling off. Hp climbs all the way to 6500. The TBSS weighs in a 5,000 lbs with my fat *** in it. With the 4:10 gears, it doesn't take long to get in the power.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r133/ShreveportSS/13.jpg

Piss poor vid, camera dude zooms on loosing board.
http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r133/ShreveportSS/?action=view&current=TBSS13.flv

Nice ride and runs/times in that vid. We would be an awsome race when I get cams and a 92+ tune. I'll give ya a run for ya money 0-60 now (recent 5.5 sec), plus you have a LS2 vette motor right?. respect is due to the Titan motor bein so under rated. As my dyno shows I quit makin power after 5,000rpm. Please come CAM's.

Motor trend says I am faster than a stock TBSS and say they weigh only 4,650... My Titan weighs 5,150 without me according to Nissan.... and I weigh 200lbs. I really have a high 13 sec truck now ....still learning to hook her up, new to racing. http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suv/112_0511_bg_trailblazer/index1.html

I thought they made AWD for the TBSS? I just remeber how bad a$$ the AWD Cyclone's and Typhoon's were!

Geaux Saints!!!!

Yeah, I'm about 5.2 0-60. I will be traveling all January, but I have efans and UD pulley ordered, but it will be late February before I get them installed. Should put me in the 13 flat range. A 5.5 0-60 is pretty darn quick for a crew cab
:bow:

5.2 is smokin...Gotta love a truck or SUV that can hang with a sports car...especially with a few buddies inside!

Mark, you need to get this really soon!! lol..... Ok i won't bug ya guys anymore i was just told some Titan owners were talking smack, but hey its all good in da hood. Again, u should save up for the SuperCharger.
http://www.stillen.com/product.asp?id=STISUPR03&c=PE

Eats why don't you just ask a moderator to change your shift name and just stick around and join us in our discussions, I am sure we can learn something from each other, your name just puts everyone on their guard !!

Mark, you need to get this really soon!! lol..... Ok i won't bug ya guys anymore i was just told some Titan owners were talking smack, but hey its all good in da hood. Again, u should save up for the SuperCharger.
http://www.stillen.com/product.asp?id=STISUPR03&c=PE

Go play with your "little" truck. As I said before I was talking about a Silverado SS. You are not even in the same class dude! It's a damn shame Chevy did not put your motor in the "Silverado SS". Wow ...what a specialty Item for 40k barley breaks 15 sec if at all. Hmmm I paid 26k for my truck in 04'. This is the only Motor a Titan comes with. I'm glad you shelled the cash out for the big motor now you can rush to get your groceries! When ever you want to hook up back to back let me know. I'll even yank your a$$ all the way back to the dealer so you can get a refund if you would like!

Atleast Shrevport SS knows how to carry himself..........

Guess you don't know much about the Trailblazer SS..... 40K?? Nahhh i paid 32k out the door to be honest. Come join a trailblazer site and learn more about these suv's! 15's are done while pulling a Titan down the track.
Heres a vid for u to sleep on, i took it jus for you.
http://www.onetruemedia.com/shared?p=1cb3d...medium=text_url (http://www.onetruemedia.com/shared?p=1cb3d0333d52cac50a50d6&skin_id=1009&utm_source=otm&utm_medium=text_url)

LOL whoopty doo.. come back and talk to us when u can do that without holdin the brake pedal.. LOL we already do posi burnouts up to 35+ mph with the uprevtune..

15's are done while pulling a Titan down the track.That is just too funny! Infact i just fell out of my chair. Please tell us more, seriously i wanna laugh some more!!!! :laugh-big:

Guess you don't know much about the Trailblazer SS..... 40K?? Nahhh i paid 32k out the door to be honest. Come join a trailblazer site and learn more about these suv's! 15's are done while pulling a Titan down the track.
Heres a vid for u to sleep on, i took it jus for you.
http://www.onetruemedia.com/shared?p=1cb3d...medium=text_url

AGAIN POST YOUR DYNO!!

Who gives a 2 sits on watching burnouts from a lonely high school grad who got his Daddy's Chevy truck to go buy milk for Momma's home cooking. Better get that teaspoon of rubber off the wheel wells before you get that ride back to Dada. Oh yeah don't forget to erase the video off the Daddys camera as he may not like seeing his trucks tires going up in smoke.

Guess you don't know much about the Trailblazer SS..... 40K?? Nahhh i paid 32k out the door to be honest. Come join a trailblazer site and learn more about these suv's! 15's are done while pulling a Titan down the track.
Heres a vid for u to sleep on, i took it jus for you.
http://www.onetruemedia.com/shared?p=1cb3d...medium=text_url


40k is what a Silverado ss cost back when i bought my Titan in 04' I wasn't referring to a TB SS. But you are right I don't know anything about little trucks...I don't want to know anything about them!

At least get a friend to hold the camera for ya....U are aggravating. I can see why you were left to shoot video by yourself. How kool I placed a camera on a curb…WOW.Get a life and go play in your Traiblazer SS forum

Well got my stock baseline pulls today. It appears by my numbers that the timing advance was not done properly. So my bone stock 06 made 267hp and 327ft lbs. Another member on this board shocked a lot of folks there but I'll let him give his results.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g301/Mychael101/100_1331.jpg

SAE 289hp/332tq, 0.95 correction

87 Octane
Engine miles 4800
Mobil1 5W-30, 800 miles
Amsoil T-case fluid
Mobil1 75W-140 diff oil
K&N drop-in

March 23rd
Temp 60*F, baro 30.11, humidity 29%
Run 001 was after a 15 minute drive to dyno and 10 minute cool down
Run 004 was after a 5 minute cool down
All runs done in 3rd gear.

Dyno guy was impressed for a stock truck but said the A/F was way rich and a muffler and intake will help lean it out. Since then I have already swapped the muffler for a Magnaflow 22" (12580) and did the 2* advance, have the Injen sitting in a box waiting to install. Considering a 170* thermostat. This is about as far as I am willing to go with performance mods for now. Will do another dyno in a month or two to see how my mods have worked.

Comments, suggestions?

Numbers look good and I will be anxious to see the results of your modifications and excellent choice on the muffler.

But are you sure that the runs were done in 4th? With the speed limiter on the truck at 114 you shouldn't be able to get the rpm level that high.

It appears the 07's with VVT are consistently putting down about 25 more hp then the prior year Titans. Again I feel like Nissans claimed hp ratings are way off base. I think the VVT was certainly a worthy addition to the Endurance engine.

Yup...that was a 3rd gear run. 4th hits the limiter at about 4,000 rpms. I tried when I was on the tyno.

Numbers look good and I will be anxious to see the results of your modifications and excellent choice on the muffler.

But are you sure that the runs were done in 4th? With the speed limiter on the truck at 114 you shouldn't be able to get the rpm level that high.

Thanks, I picked the muffler after reading one of your posts!

It was done in 3rd gear, I put 4th because that was the shifter position but thinking back I did hear two shifts before he punched it and it makes sense now. Post edited. I have video I'll post in a few days, I left my camera at work.

What do you guys think about the A/F? How about the thermostat idea?

That is one hell of a rich A/F ratio. I wonder if his system picked up right???? REally the only true way to tell is with a reader in the exhaust sytem up in front of the CATs.

But 10's...man that's rich!!!!

Extremely rich. That is what mine looked like after I lost my tuning after installing the JBA headers. I was running right at 10. That definitely needs to get leaned out someway.

I personally would not do the 170* thermostat.

Got the Injen installed today. Rolled out of the neighborhood, turned on to the main road, punched it...and started giggling uncontrollably. Thing sounds friggin awesome and there is a definite power increase. Did a 0-60 run and got 7.53s with some wheel spin at launch. Never did a baseline 0-60 so I don't know what the gain is, but the mods seem to be working well together. Can't wait to get to the dyno again. I haven't had this much fun with a vehicle since my '66 Fairlane GTA!