Hey guys,

What is the fastest 1/4 mile time ON STREET TIRES?

What is that time?

What modifications are done to the truck?

Thanks,

Kyle

RB's titan 13.3 I think FST

not sure... toomnymods, papa-d, rb'stitan, markislive (there's a bunch of fast titans, i obviously can't name them all). i'm sure someone has the fastest, i just wouldn't be able to tell you, sorry...

n/a?????..d**^ dats quick

RB's titan 13.3 I think FST

RB's ran a 13.3 on street tires????

he was running the juice, but i do think he was on street tires.

whats the fastest drug free titan as in no juice or chargers lol

he was running the juice, but i do think he was on street tires.

WOW...That's really fast...

I lose track of all the "records" people have claimed on here. Tuned, not tuned, with or without headers, etc etc etc...

I thought the best time was the guy spraying his red alert crew? Or toomanymods...

RB's was on the juice on street tires, Papa_D runs a 14.0 N/A on street tires "snow tires" as he calls them, the XE steelies with bridgestone 245's.

I lose track of all the "records" people have claimed on here. Tuned, not tuned, with or without headers, etc etc etc...

I thought the best time was the guy spraying his red alert crew? Or toomanymods...

From what I can gather toomanymods has the all out record...Drag radials, NOS all of it at 13.08 or something like that...

I'm just curious what the best time is with street tires and street tires with no NOS.

RB's was on the juice on street tires, Papa_D runs a 14.0 N/A on street tires "snow tires" as he calls them, the XE steelies with bridgestone 245's.

AHHHH!!!! that makes a lot more sense then.

Thanks for the input guys. I appreciate it.

So 14.0 N/A on Street tires with no NOS is the current record holder?

Papa D and DBolemis, ran pretty close to each other on street tires. DB has since switched to Drag Radials and ran 13.8

I would like to see the best times for street tires myself and would like to know where this is going.Come on Kyle.

i have g-teche'd a 14.2 @98mph on my 22's but it's pointless to race with 125 extra lbs of rotational mass.. my best on the nitrous and n/a are both down below in my signature of course with slicks..

I think the best on street tires...N/A...was Markislive with a 14.07

That was with Volant, Stillen headers, truetrac, jba exhaust...and I think it was on 20's.

I would like to see the best times for street tires myself and would like to know where this is going.Come on Kyle.

hahaha...I'm not saying anything yet...I'm just gathering some information and doing some research.

Obviously there have been a lot of questions about what works best on the Titan...N/A or supercharger. My biggest concern is that the results will have to be compared equally. If I take our truck to the drag strip I'm not going to install Drag tires. I will only run the truck with daily driven tires. I'll probably lose some time because I won't be able to get traction but I would rather the test be "real world."

i've been a 13.60 on 24's WITH A CREW CAB.

i've been a 13.60 on 24's WITH A CREW CAB.


Seriously??? That's impressive...

With what modifications?

RK did it on the juice not N/A

Seriously??? That's impressive...

With what modifications?

5000 shot of N20

So if I take this truck to the track how are we going to compare everything?

Are we going to compare our truck to a truck with:

Intake
Headers (most likely long tubes)
Exhaust
Tuning (VKPro or UPrev)
Cams
True-Track
Street tires

Stillen Truck:

Supercharger
Intake
Exhaust
Headers
True Track
Heavy 22's with BFG KDW tires

I don't really like the idea of including NOS and drag radials because it isn't a fair comparison...You can't have NOS or Drag Radials running 100% of the time, but you can have the supercharger 100% of the time...Does this make sense?

I'm trying to get a DAILY DRIVEN comparison. After all, how many people only bring their trucks out when they head to the track? And how many people use their NOS every day?

So if I take this truck to the track how are we going to compare everything?

Are we going to compare our truck to a truck with:

Intake
Headers (most likely long tubes)
Exhaust
Tuning (VKPro or UPrev)
Cams
True-Track
Street tires

Stillen Truck:

Supercharger
Intake
Exhaust
Headers
True Track
Heavy 22's with BFG KDW tires

I don't really like the idea of including NOS and drag radials because it isn't a fair comparison...You can't have NOS or Drag Radials running 100% of the time, but you can have the supercharger 100% of the time...Does this make sense?

I'm trying to get a DAILY DRIVEN comparison. After all, how many people only bring their trucks out when they head to the track? And how many people use their NOS every day?

Sure sounds good. But when I talk about street tires I usually mean 50K rated tires with 420+ treadwear. KDW are softer street tire.

I've run 18" Goodyear forteras silent armours with 1.94 60ft and now run 20" Kumnho ESTCA and pulled a 1.80 60ft on the juice.

Best Precams: 2004 4x2 CC LE: Race weight full street trim 5360lbs w/driver
N/A 14.34 @ 95.33
N20 13.32 @ 100 (80shot)

Mods:
Volant G1, Cats, banks exhaust, TT, 07 intake, UpRev, Stillen Headers

Sure sounds good. But when I talk about street tires I usually mean 50K rated tires with 420+ treadwear. KDW are softer street tire.

I've run 18" Goodyear forteras silent armours with 1.94 60ft and now run 20" Kumnho ESTCA and pulled a 1.80 60ft on the juice.

Best Precams: 2004 4x2 CC LE: Race weight full street trim 5360lbs w/driver
N/A 14.34 @ 95.33
N20 13.32 @ 100 (80shot)

Mods:
Volant G1, Cats, banks exhaust, TT, 07 intake, UpRev, Stillen Headers

Makes sense...KDW's are nice tires for every day use but I wouldn't really consider them a "performance" tire...But like you said they aren't a 50K rated tire. The wheels that we're using are HEAVY too. We have dynoed a loss of 30 HP at the rear wheels with them on. I'm not trying to make any excuses for poor performance times...I have absolutely no idea what the truck will do. It could be great, it could be horrible...Heck, I might not even be able to make it haha. I'm just asking what people would like to see for now.

Come race up north with Rossi and I.

5000 shot of N20

LOL..hehe:auslachen-big:

yes my 13.88 was with drag radials. prior to that i had a 14.11 with street tires, then i got another tune from uprev and the drs that put me at 13.88. i just installed my new ram air hood from suncoast and i am waiting on my crank pulley to come in. our track here does not reopen until feb, they are redoing the track. i would be willing to run my factory se wheels to give you another time when the track reopens

Your Titan is gonna fly!!!! Can't wait to see the new times on that "jenny craig" success story..LOL:udaman: probably be in 13's easy w/out the DR's

I would like to see 14.0 out of a supercharged truck on street tires. But we all know 13.9 would sell more of them :D

I would like to see 14.0 out of a supercharged truck on street tires. But we all know 13.9 would sell more of them :D


Please excuse my ignorance (not really a drag strip kinda guy) but if someone ran a 13.9 or 14.0...what type of speeds are we talking about?

In the high 90's (94-99 mph) maybe 100mph, depends on the track. OH! Kyle is modding the black stillin truck for the strip, he posted earlier over on Mighty Titans forum.

http://mightytitans.boardnation.com/index.php?topic=3120.15

near 100mph.. your s/c truck would really have to be hauling major A$$ to gain the lost ground that the uprev tuned trucks gain from WOT from 0 mph..

so far I've ran my truck 4 times down the track with N20 after cams..

trap speeds where from 104 - 107mph trap speeds where sporadic cause the damn stall converter sucks and i can only assume it is slipping some, if i ever get around to modding it im sure the times would be more consistant..

in my eyes if you really want to compare times you should compare the s/c truck with slicks to a uprev cammed, n20 truck like mine.. unleash the stage 3 truck let's see what this 450rwhp will do.. I'm sure our output is nearly identical being that i'm pushing 330RWHP without nitrous and I used a 125shot should bump me up to 415-420 RWHP with 500+tq easily.. should be in the same boat as a nitrous titan in my opinion, so what is the point in comparing it to a n/a truck with 100 less hp,lol

Just hope you do not blow the trans sky high with the S/C at the track. GOOD LUCK!

near 100mph.. your s/c truck would really have to be hauling major A$$ to gain the lost ground that the uprev tuned trucks gain from WOT from 0 mph..

so far I've ran my trucks 4 times down the track with N20 after cams..

trap speeds where from 104 - 107mph trap speeds where sporadic cause the damn stall converter sucks and i can only assume it is slipping some, if i ever get around to modding it im sure the times would be more consistant..

in my eyes if you really want to compare times you should compare the s/c truck with slicks to a uprev cammed, n20 truck like mine.. unleash the stage 3 truck let's see what this 450rwhp will do.. I'm sure our output is nearly identical being that i'm pushing 330RWHP without nitrous and I used a 125shot should bump me up to 415-420 RWHP with 500+tq easily.. should be in the same boat as a nitrous titan in my opinion, so what is the point in comparing it to a n/a truck with 100 less hp,lol


The reason I want to compare it without NOS is to compare it with a standard STREET setup. I would venture to say that the only mod that someone would buy specifically for the track is NOS? The supercharger is designed to run on the street but it will perform on the track as well.

I have been preparing the black truck but by that I mean true track differential...I had more in mind but unfortunately it didn't work out. I'm still not 100% sure if or when I'll head to the track. I found out that Fontana is open next weekend but I'm going on vacation next Thursday. the next open day isn't until march so I don't know...I'm just trying to get ideas for now.

accidental double post...

Just hope you do not blow the trans sky high with the S/C at the track. GOOD LUCK!

This is the exact reason I do not want to go with Drag Radials or instant wide open throttle.

The reason I want to compare it without NOS is to compare it with a standard STREET setup. I would venture to say that the only mod that someone would buy specifically for the track is NOS? The supercharger is designed to run on the street but it will perform on the track as well.

I have been preparing the black truck but by that I mean true track differential...I had more in mind but unfortunately it didn't work out. I'm still not 100% sure if or when I'll head to the track. I found out that Fontana is open next weekend but I'm going on vacation next Thursday. the next open day isn't until march so I don't know...I'm just trying to get ideas for now.

Give me the truck, I will run it. I'll even give you some type of collateral. :)

Give me the truck, I will run it. I'll even give you some type of collateral. :)

LOL...I don't know about letting you drive it but I've invited you down before to come for a ride in it...Invitation is still open.

I still have the record for non CAM'ed NA on street tires...

14.07@95.38

Mod'ed Volant
Stillen LT's
JBA Evol kitty
UpRev

LOL...I don't know about letting you drive it but I've invited you down before to come for a ride in it...Invitation is still open.

Lets set a date on time. I am off from school for another week for vacation.

If you can PM me when you are available, I will come down.

I still have the record for non CAM'ed NA on street tires...

14.07@95.38

Mod'ed Volant
Stillen LT's
JBA Evol kitty
UpRev
once i get my uprev i'll give u a run for ur money ;)

I still have the record for non CAM'ed NA on street tires...

14.07@95.38

Mod'ed Volant
Stillen LT's
JBA Evol kitty
UpRev
once i get my uprev i'll give u a run for ur money ;)

I still have the record for non CAM'ed NA on street tires...

14.07@95.38

Mod'ed Volant
Stillen LT's
JBA Evol kitty
UpRev
once i get my uprev i'll give u a run for ur money ;)

near 100mph.. your s/c truck would really have to be hauling major A$$ to gain the lost ground that the uprev tuned trucks gain from WOT from 0 mph..

so far I've ran my truck 4 times down the track with N20 after cams..

trap speeds where from 104 - 107mph trap speeds where sporadic cause the damn stall converter sucks and i can only assume it is slipping some, if i ever get around to modding it im sure the times would be more consistant..

in my eyes if you really want to compare times you should compare the s/c truck with slicks to a uprev cammed, n20 truck like mine.. unleash the stage 3 truck let's see what this 450rwhp will do.. I'm sure our output is nearly identical being that i'm pushing 330RWHP without nitrous and I used a 125shot should bump me up to 415-420 RWHP with 500+tq easily.. should be in the same boat as a nitrous titan in my opinion, so what is the point in comparing it to a n/a truck with 100 less hp,lol


I agree with this comparing a N/A truck to a boosted one is not really apples to apples 330rwhp vs 450 is kinda tough...

I think it is fair... n/a's have ran the fastest times that we know of. I realy want to see what Stillen's Titan can do. I would really like to see one with a built up tranny and rear swap and run the SC with WOT from uprev... guess i have to hit the lottery :D

ooo dat would b sweet!

Hay Kyle ill meet up with you at the track if you want. I would love to see what your cookin up and to see a S?C Titan in person too. As you know its kinda hard to find a 1/4 mile track in socal these days but i did manage a 9.198 @ irwindale 1/8 mi track on bald 20"s N/A. Ill bring my cipher (uprev) software also. If you want to seee a qicker time u can shoot me out some longtubes ;) lol.

BTW im the one that recently traded you the stillen grill shell for the speedgrill. http://www.clubtitan.org/forums/showthread.php?t=42148

hahaha...I'm not saying anything yet...I'm just gathering some information and doing some research.

Obviously there have been a lot of questions about what works best on the Titan...N/A or supercharger. My biggest concern is that the results will have to be compared equally. If I take our truck to the drag strip I'm not going to install Drag tires. I will only run the truck with daily driven tires. I'll probably lose some time because I won't be able to get traction but I would rather the test be "real world."It's tough to get the snow tires to hook but they do OK when you melt em off the rim, lol. Good luck getting her to hook if you put some serious HP in front.
I am just getting started with the NA mods and have yet to do a PGM, throttle body inter cooler, 07 intake, 2.5" Y pipe, electric fans, lightweight pulleys, cooler running thermostat, , front air dam, suspension mods, traction bars, or any weight reduction and eventually I hope to be a 13.80 truck NA in good weather. I have not pulled any weight off the truck and it tips the drag strip scales at 5250 with me in it.
People are dying to see what the SC truck can put down at the strip and I wish you all the best in your quest for speed. Shoot, if I were there I would race with you, lol.
Please go to an NHRA sanctioned 1/4 mile facility and post the race weight, all aftermarket modifications and the adjusted Density Altitude as well for real world comparison sake. Good luck, happy modding and I'll see you at the races.

I would like to see 14.0 out of a supercharged truck on street tires. But we all know 13.9 would sell more of them :DI want to see 13.5 or lower. I would prefer much lower. LOL!!!

I want to see 13.5 or lower. I would prefer much lower. LOL!!!

I agree.....14.0 would be a shame for an extra 100 plus hp.

I've ran a 14.3 on street tires.

So I would suspect a SC should hopefully run 13.5. But if Kyle has never ran the 1/4 mile I don't suspect he can do that the first time. Launching is a learned trait.

So I would suspect a SC should hopefully run 13.5. But if Kyle has never ran the 1/4 mile I don't suspect he can do that the first time. Launching is a learned trait.

I'll tell you right now this is going to be a big factor. I dont have any drag racing experience and I am sure that I will be losing traction alot my first few runs.

I'll tell you right now this is going to be a big factor. I dont have any drag racing experience and I am sure that I will be losing traction alot my first few runs.
Let me open her up. :)
I have plenty of experience. :) It's been countless times since I have gone to Irwindale.

For you, I would recommend stalling at about 1200 RPMs, then going half throttle, then punch it.

I'll tell you right now this is going to be a big factor. I dont have any drag racing experience and I am sure that I will be losing traction alot my first few runs.

Pracite in the parking lot you have there at work. Just so you can familiarize yourself with the truck and its habits....Become one with it.

Pracite in the parking lot you have there at work. Just so you can familiarize yourself with the truck and its habits....Become one with it.
Now this is the person i'm waiting on for a time with the cams.
I should be putting my 07 against paparyno's cammed 06 on the 9th,if we can both drive the 3 hrs to meet in Mississippi.I'll keep you guys in on it.

well Ronnie, i just installed some new shoes on my baby and they suck!!! I finished off my old shoes on XMAS EVE so I was lookin forward to the new one. They are a set of 18 Nitto's and they suck on my truck.!! I have wheel spin(tires on fire) till about 40-45mph till it shifts and that is with me feathering the throttle. My old factories held pretty good.. Gonna try and find a set asap so I can get some traction again.. Go figure. I bought these to help eliminate spin.. Even went wider to 295/60/18 vs the stock 265/70/18.. anyway ...I'll keep ya informed...also, let me know @the track and the1/4 mile availability. If that one isn't doing the 1/4 mile runs then I'll drive closer to you to meet ya. Tks bud

i need to get out and get some times once i get everything in and installed...

i need to get out and get some times once i get everything in and installed...

we're all here with ya man.. keep up the installs... it seems to feed the blood around here..LOL

the way I see it is...
You're not finished moddin till
*your bank account is zero
*all credit cards are maxed
*Your wife's left ya
*and you've installed everything you could possibly never need on a Truck that gets 14mpg that you drive like ya stole it..

Happy New Year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Glad to see you guys start a thread about my truck ;) lol.

Glad to see you guys start a thread about my truck ;) lol.

hehe no such thing as a "fast red truck" we all know all fast trucks are "WHITE"..

LOL

hopefully i will be soon.... just playin'; check out my new toys i've got to play with!!!

hehe no such thing as a "fast red truck" we all know all fast trucks are "WHITE"..

LOL

Now Chris we all really know that we are blessed by the man above to give us the fortitude and graciousness to be the fastest color. We are the Titan Angels and with that we should be humble and only bring the frigid Blizzard chill when the wrath of the Ghosn seals our fate.

Plus no one has yet figured out that the metal flake in other paint jobs adds weight….LOL

Donnie me a mark are gonna meet up at evadale in early 08 bring it and the pork skins. Hey King you come join us to.

Plus no one has yet figured out that the metal flake in other paint jobs adds weight….LOL

And DRAG. lol

Donnie me a mark are gonna meet up at evadale in early 08 bring it and the pork skins. Hey King you come join us to.


Sounds good,let me know when you guys get a date,If i'm not at work.
Trying to get up with paparyno so can eat his cammed 06,your 04 should be fun also,lol.

Man, I hate to do this but I feel it's incumbent upon me to bring an air of legitimacy to this thread by posting my winning Dyno numbers on my Deepwater truck so I can bring this argument to conclusion once and for all. Don't make me post my 12.40 0 to 90 run Cipher file, lol.

Sounds good,let me know when you guys get a date,If i'm not at work.
Trying to get up with paparyno so can eat his cammed 06,your 04 should be fun also,lol.Man this is a heavy helping of BS this early in the morning, maybe I will post my 12.40 0-90 runfile, lol. How's it hanging Donnie, glad to see New Years didn't do ya in. Did you get up early just to admire your hood? I did that a couple times and it's not even painted yet, lol.

Happy New Years papa,Some of us have to work,No holidays out here in the Gulf "oilfield".

Happy New Years papa,Some of us have to work,No holidays out here in the Gulf "oilfield".Happy New Year man, and please don't stop pumping, I'm gonna need a lot more of that black gold, lol.

So I'm kind of bummed...I was going to head to the track last weekend with our Titan and see what kind of times I could put down...

I had everything planned, true trac installed, truck was put back to the Stage 2 kit with standard supercharger tuning. Everything was looking good...Until the skies opened up and the rains came down...Now I'll have to wait until March or so.

So I'm kind of bummed...I was going to head to the track last weekend with our Titan and see what kind of times I could put down...

I had everything planned, true trac installed, truck was put back to the Stage 2 kit with standard supercharger tuning. Everything was looking good...Until the skies opened up and the rains came down...Now I'll have to wait until March or so.

Yeah I've had those days too:
http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l80/houseofbaker/?action=view&current=P1010301.flv

Just think now you have plenty of time to get her tuned on the dyno for both stages and just pulley and tune swap at the track. That'll be cool.

Yeah I've had those days too:
http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l80/houseofbaker/?action=view&current=P1010301.flv

Just think now you have plenty of time to get her tuned on the dyno for both stages and just pulley and tune swap at the track. That'll be cool.


hmmm....That's not a bad idea...I might try to organize that.

It also gives me some more time to organize better tires.

hmmm....That's not a bad idea...I might try to organize that.

It also gives me some more time to organize better tires.

Find ya or make ya some steel 16" wheels and add these DOT slicks:
F100016B 1000-16 430.40 9.50 11.40 33.00 $252.00
http://www.gearworksmfg.com/autotires/whitewalltires.html

Then you can say you ran on snow tires...just look at them...LOL

hahaha.

I'm debating on whether or not I want to put slicks on the truck to be honest. Part of me wants to, just to see what kind of times it'll run. Another part of me knows that we will run out of room and hit the speedo too quickly. There is a little short chute down by our shop. It's probably not even an 1/8 mile and I can get to about 85 before I have to back off...Pat and Chris rode with me down this street, they know how fast it'll go.

hahaha.

I'm debating on whether or not I want to put slicks on the truck to be honest. Part of me wants to, just to see what kind of times it'll run. Another part of me knows that we will run out of room and hit the speedo too quickly. There is a little short chute down by our shop. It's probably not even an 1/8 mile and I can get to about 85 before I have to back off...Pat and Chris rode with me down this street, they know how fast it'll go.
Those r the talleSt narrow I've found and their SLiCkS that need a RIM. Blackberry typing

So I'm kind of bummed...I was going to head to the track last weekend with our Titan and see what kind of times I could put down...

I had everything planned, true trac installed, truck was put back to the Stage 2 kit with standard supercharger tuning. Everything was looking good...Until the skies opened up and the rains came down...Now I'll have to wait until March or so.

why March? is there no in between then and now??

why March? is there no in between then and now??


Nothing that I've been able to find. California is horrible on drag racing. For instance we have one of the best drag race tracks in the country right in our backyard...Pomona Speedway. Unfortunately the people that live around the track don't want to be bothered anymore by loud engines so they don't allow anyone else to run there. They only open it up a couple times a year at hot rod shows and for the Winter Nationals.

Find ya or make ya some steel 16" wheels and add these DOT slicks:
F100016B 1000-16 430.40 9.50 11.40 33.00 $252.00
http://www.gearworksmfg.com/autotires/whitewalltires.html

Then you can say you ran on snow tires...just look at them...LOL

Unless you want a smoke show do not waste your money on these. My friend tried them, they are hard as a rock. The hotrod crowd buy them for the looks not traction.

So I'm kind of bummed...I was going to head to the track last weekend with our Titan and see what kind of times I could put down...

I had everything planned, true trac installed, truck was put back to the Stage 2 kit with standard supercharger tuning. Everything was looking good...Until the skies opened up and the rains came down...Now I'll have to wait until March or so.
ya pamona would be sweet. Theres always Irwindale on thursdays so you can getr a basline run on an 1/8 mile track. who knows you may realize you need the DR's or slicks if you spin too much. would hate to see you wait 3 months and then not get any traction when you get there. I believe cal speedway isnt having races till closer to march.
I may be driving down to stillin very soon to pick me up some longtubes ;) trying to decide if i should buy coated or uncoated and choose my own coating.

ya pamona would be sweet. Theres always Irwindale on thursdays so you can getr a basline run on an 1/8 mile track. who knows you may realize you need the DR's or slicks if you spin too much. would hate to see you wait 3 months and then not get any traction when you get there. I believe cal speedway isnt having races till closer to march.
I may be driving down to stillin very soon to pick me up some longtubes ;) trying to decide if i should buy coated or uncoated and choose my own coating.

The only problem that I have with Irwindale is that they always run at night and their track prep sucks. This time of year and running at night I would have to literally melt the tires in order to get any kind of traction. That is where I took my old Titan and that truck did a one-wheel peel getting out of the hole when it was nearly stock. Plus it's kind of far, I live in Irvine and the 405 freeway SUCKS at that time of night.

When you come down make sure I'm here. I will give you a full tour of our facility and show you around a bit. If you want you can come down and see both headers in person. I'll take you to our assembly division and lay them out side by side.

The only problem that I have with Irwindale is that they always run at night and their track prep sucks. This time of year and running at night I would have to literally melt the tires in order to get any kind of traction. That is where I took my old Titan and that truck did a one-wheel peel getting out of the hole when it was nearly stock. Plus it's kind of far, I live in Irvine and the 405 freeway SUCKS at that time of night.

When you come down make sure I'm here. I will give you a full tour of our facility and show you around a bit. If you want you can come down and see both headers in person. I'll take you to our assembly division and lay them out side by side.

ok ill call first, maby later this week if i can make it.
And ya Irwindales track prep is kinda hit and miss, with it "missing" more often lol. Maby they will let us bring a bottle of VHT Track Bite

Just port and polish the head DUH! and add all that other neat stuff. like exhust, headers, CAI, uprev, LSD, B-pipe, and when thay make cams for the 07 that to lol. thats what im going to do. mid to low 13s i bet on a 07, no NO2 no SC all NA thats the way to go yah baby!!

Just port and polish the head DUH! and add all that other neat stuff. like exhust, headers, CAI, uprev, LSD, B-pipe, and when thay make cams for the 07 that to lol. thats what im going to do. mid to low 13s i bet on a 07, no NO2 no SC all NA thats the way to go yah baby!!

The heads are already ported big enough as per JWT has said. You would need to be making BIG power to benifit from any match work done.

I am the fastest armada on street tires.... 13.45....


















j/k :feuerkopf2-big: