This is my first ever shared cipher log, finally got around to updating my AFR data for the 07's.. Thanks RB's :D

6.4 0-60... not bad with wheel spin on 22's larger than stock. :D AFR looks off though. Running around 12.0 under WOT

Lookin good!!! you are slightly rich but not too bad. Your timing hit pretty darn high!!! Hope your running the good stuff!!! LoL

wish i could have gotten traction, i even rolled into it... the roads here suck arse.

i know she is capable of sub 6's. Have only ran one to date though.

I can tell you one thing, I never hit 250+ gm/s with my 2nd gen S&B tube. Glad I went ahead and put the 3rd gen on.

I have to get on the wifes computer to read your log. I know you finally changed your S&B GEN 2 tube to the GEN 3 recently and that might explain your 12.0 AFR. If you're a non-FFV Titan, that is good news for S&B if Uprev didn't change your AFR like they did for Rossi.

no, i am still running the generic tune... going to get uprev to hold onto this one becuase i like how it is running and see what they can do with additional ones...

Nice Kingmade!
Sorry for the jack, Hope you don't mind, but here's my latest one. Maybe good for some comparison. Forgot to log my timing though. duh.
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You're running crazy timing!

Ya know, UpRev had me running pretty rich as well but I enjoyed the lowend gians over a lean setup.

Oh that was also with a passenger, I am going to wait for it to cool off a bit, pull some sub 6's then do a pull to 100. This is also in full street trim. Very rare for me to be in full street trim. Can't WAIT to get some hearders and a catback on it.

Thanks Qweasel.

I got a question, if the timing is real high, and you are worried about running a good tank of gas...can you put an octane booster into the tank?

Well you have very high timing like Rossi I hope you are running the good stuff looks like you might have some det the truck is pulling timing at 2763-4150 rpm you might want to take 2 deg out of the timing and see what happens. Also running very rich saw low 12 and high 11.9 so you could be leaned out a bit. After you get leaned out look to see if your BSF( Base Fuel Schedule) goes up. Overall not bad just concerned with the timing good run :D

I am thinkng the drop in timing was due to me catching traction... i had traction rolling into it, then mashed, lost traction, decided to stay on it till it caught.


Am I right on that thought? Additional load on the engine causing it to pull timing. Through out the rest of the run it stays up there pretty good.

I am running non offbrand 93 Octane.

yea the truck will pull timing coming out of alot of wheel spin but you can see it drop and then it drops again starts to build up and drops again thats my concern.

I think the second drop was changing gears, I will look at it more, and get some more runs in. I appreciate everyone looking into it :)

Gweasel, you didn't log your timing. You're not getting full throttle till 28 MPH, AFR is near the top of the running range you want to be in, and your 0-60 is 8.152 seconds.

Q, i would get a couple more logs, log your ign timing, and send them up to uprev.

Oh that was also with a passenger, I am going to wait for it to cool off a bit, pull some sub 6's then do a pull to 100. This is also in full street trim. Very rare for me to be in full street trim. Can't WAIT to get some hearders and a catback on it.

Thanks Qweasel.

Kingmade, you're pulling in 244.5 GM/S with the GEN 3, and your 0-60 I have at 6.516 which is decent with a passenger, full throttle at 8 MPH and lots of timing. I think you have a pretty good generic tune, and your AFR is well within a safe performance range.

your 06 is movin bud. Hehe no wonder, wish i had full throttle from 8mph from the factory. Going to make some more runs... if i am not back within an hour, start calling police stations asking if they caught the red blurr ;)

One note to remember....I don't run my performance tune on a daily basis. I ONLY run it at the track. That high timing is scary.

However...I do have a map that runs identical fuel targets just not the timing. So when I switch maps the only change is timing and nothing needs to be learned.

My 0-60's only go up .1 to .15 when I go to my performance map.

also in second gear the timing is pulled again but not as much as before. Run a hot map at the track if you want but not everyday you may be able to run the hot timing for a while then as your truck gets more miles on it you wont even be able to get close to the same timing without getting det. Timing is nice but AFR will make you fast and 70 deg ambient temps help alot. I have a hot timing map but cant ever get it to run cause of the octane limit out here gonna try some 100 octane and see if it will run. On my every day map is my 89 tune and in that tune I can run 6.0-6.1 all day.

In Cali we only have 91 octane. This is the main reason I don't touch my hot tune unless I"m at the track.

I have tried a mixture of 100 octane to get the octane up to about 94....boy was it expensive and nothing seemed to change.

My logs never show detonation...or signs of it. My everyday map runs pretty awesome....

I'll do some new logs tomorrow. I did that log right after i re-flashed it. Cleared/ Relearned Base Fuel Schedule. I rolled into it, i was trying not to get wheelspin. I'll try to hit WOT sooner next time & try stalling it a little. Also, if my timing looks real high, i will try backing it off -2*. I just can't get a low 0-60 because of the 1 wheel peel. Thanks Guys.

ok, i am back, 0-60 in 6.02 and 0-100 in 16.59 (small uphill at the end) ran out of flat road lol.

Here are my new logs... didn't change anything, no wheel spin on either run.

ok, i am back, 0-60 in 6.02 and 0-100 in 16.59 (small uphill at the end) ran out of flat road lol.

Now that's pretty good number 0-60, I want your generic tune...lol.

Now that's pretty good number 0-60, I want your generic tune...lol.


hehe, just had to lose the passenger and not lose traction. I would have pulled sub 6 but i had to make an extra pass due to traffic... truck was warmed up more that I wanted it to be :( It is a sub 6 truck though, with my 22's being taller than stock.

Dang, that's FAST Kingmade! I can't wait till i get TT.

hehe, just had to lose the passenger and not lose traction. I would have pulled sub 6 but i had to make an extra pass due to traffic... truck was warmed up more that I wanted it to be :( It is a sub 6 truck though, with my 22's being taller than stock.
What size tires you have on that thing? 45 series right?

305/45 is pretty much stock.

So you have one bigger then that??? Damn that must be one wide tire!!!

hehe, to be honest i don't remember, I think they are 305/40 R22, my stockers are the crappy XE's 275 somthing something, when i did the tire measurement a while ago, when the info was fresh, the 22's came out a little bit taller.

It is still pulling timing without tire spin.

What's the over all weight of your wheel tire???? Then are some awesome times!! Put on lighter wheels/tires and damn...you'd be really flyin!!

You should be able to run what dbolemiss was running at the track.

why would their be detonation if i am running so rich?

naw, i am not running that good up top. Guess those long tubes really help, plus my exhuast set up is HORRIBLE, you seriously would laugh if you saw all the bends in it.

Yeah the XE wheels/tires are pretty short. The SE/LE wheels tires are 32.6 inches tall.

tires and rims, if i remember correcly weigh around 95 lbs, stocks weigh in around 75, and drag radials weigh in at 54... i posted it a while back.

So your truck pulls timing when the spare is pulled?

Perhaps it's just due to wheel spin causing the timing to pull?

i didn't have any spin those runs. something else is causing it. What i think is cool, is the truck will probably be faster once, i get the timing fixed and the AFR up to 12.5 :D

guess i will retard it 2 degress and see what happens.... tomorrow, not going out again tonight.

Yeah it will have slight gains. Be curious to hear why it's pulling timing.

Looking at your logs they are real close to mine,I'm getting alittle more air and my timing is up there with yours maybe a little more,lol.

had to get my wife to send me a log,i'm at work.Might send it over to Randy.

even more air before the ram air? if so what intake are you running?

i don't think it is detonation, I think it is running rich enough for that not to happen.

Guys don't worry about the MAF readings if you are Tuned. The only difference the MAF readings will make is on a untuned Titan. It will greatly alter the AFR.

The position of the MAF and the size of the tube at the MAF will greatly alter this reading. It's calibrated to read from the stock tube and the stock tube only.

My MAF readings are only 240-250.

I hit a 276 GMs with my AEM brute force.

My AFR is hitting 12.6 -12.8

lol, but rossi 276 sounds so much better :D

maf should be moved closer to the trottle body and have an intake that splits in the middle :D with two huge filters

You want some HUGE MAF readings....take your stock air box.....cut the tube off right at the box......adapt your S&B filter to it...and make a run!!

You'll run rich as hell for this run...but your MAF readigns will be between 280-300. I did this for a test once.

sounds like the stillen cai, you should patent it and sell it man lol.

I think the stillen box replaces the tube at the maf....atleast I hope so. If it don't the maf readings will be too high....make it run rich.

ahh, because it is dumping more fuel for air that is not there. Gotcha.


Could it just be the initial engine load of launching that is pulling the timing? Stumped on this one.

if you didnt get any spin off the line its still pulling alot of timing in first gear.

[QUOTE=KINGMADE]why would their be detonation if i am running so rich?

Running rich lowers the chance of detonation, but the amount of timing and octane used is more important in preventing detonation. Are you running the 2 degree advance along with the tune? If so, I would take it off and run another log to see if the timing gets pulled as your earlier logs did. It has to be the timing causing some detonation. Stillen's VKPRO said to remove any extra timing advance while using their piggyback.

...sorry again for the jack Kingmade. Trying to get to the bottom of this. Can't seem to get faster than 7.96sec. 0-60. I've tried different launch techs. Wheelspin vs. no-wheelspin. Tryed with & with out +2 timing. Feels like it should be faster, with my mods. Kingmade is almost 2 sec. faster w/ TT. It was 80 *F today. Here are the logs w/ 22's:
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How can I attach a log to get opinions? When i use the attachment manager it says the file is too big.

how long did you record for? 0-60 should be nowhere close to too big.

Q, i have no idea man... I think most of it has to do with one wheel peel.

how long did you record for? 0-60 should be nowhere close to too big.


Did a run up to 100.

q, you didn't but barely go past half throttle till 14mph... i know you did this becuase of traction... when you did go WOT, your trottlebody recieved full voltage as it should have, everything looks pretty good to me, you just need tru-trac.

Did a run up to 100.

email it to me, let me try

merlin023@hotmail.com

email it to me, let me try

merlin023@hotmail.com

Sent. Thanks!!!!!

Modfreak, i can't trim enough fat off of it, do a 0-60 log.

I tried saving it as a pdf and the file size is way over the 4 meg limit, converted it to an excel doc, but CT doesn't let you attach excel doc's

Modfreak, i can't trim enough fat off of it, do a 0-60 log.

I tried saving it as a pdf and the file size is way over the 4 meg limit, converted it to an excel doc, but CT doesn't let you attach excel doc's

Ok. 0-60 log. What parameters do I NEED. I may have a few extra checked that is making it bigger than needed.

Once you get it to xls file...change the extentionto csv and it will work.

Once you get it to xls file...change the extentionto csv and it will work.

You lost me there. I am an idiot when it comes to that kind of stuff.

ok.....this one should work.

ok.....this one should work.

Keep an eye on your rows 160-165 Modfreak....thats a problem area for me. I really wish Uprev would get the knock detection figured out as the cams make it hard to hear even with my knock cable.

...sorry again for the jack Kingmade. Trying to get to the bottom of this. Can't seem to get faster than 7.96sec. 0-60. I've tried different launch techs. Wheelspin vs. no-wheelspin. Tryed with & with out +2 timing. Feels like it should be faster, with my mods. Kingmade is almost 2 sec. faster w/ TT. It was 80 *F today. Here are the logs w/ 22's:
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HEy weasel - does your truck sound like its droning when you step on the gas....like a dog grawling in a bottom of a 55gallon drum?

Your too rich...

Here are my new logs... didn't change anything, no wheel spin on either run.

King after second look at these today. You too need to watch the area between 4-5K 1st and 2nd gear. It might but just cell out of wack or it could be a cell that needs less advance. On your 0-60 rows 138-149.

HEy weasel - does your truck sound like its droning when you step on the gas....like a dog grawling in a bottom of a 55gallon drum?

Your too rich...
HAHA! LOL! Yeah...i guess it does sound a little like that. I sent Jared some data logs today. Thanks for all the advice Tune Gods!!!

Seems this tune has gone back & forth, with the lean/rich.

Hey Mod and King are either of you e85 capable? If so go dump some in 5 gallons or so and do another log for me.

I am e85... just don't know where to get it :D....

UPDATE:

Got my updated flash from Jared, he actually decided to advance the timing more in 1st gear and lean it up a bit... I will be so happy if it pulls Sub 6's without headers or catback :D I will reflash later tonight :D

Holy Crap King! You gonna be QUICK! Man, i sent him some logs too, i hope he hooks me up like that.

well lets see some new logs :D

something went wrong, truck slowed half a second, forgot to log the TB voltage, but it does not look like it is opening all the way up... don't know what happened, but the timing looks way off all over the place, the truck is running lean now, just glad I still have my original tune saved. I will get them to fix it tomorrow.

Hmmm... did lose over a half second. Logs attached

****, i didn't even record my AFR on that run... brain fart... for some reason cipher will not save what I want to record for each run, and i have to manually select what parameters when I get ready to start, it is a real pain in the ***.

Also it automatically reverts back to kilometers per hour and celsius for temp... so my first run was 0-60 in 3.17 :D lol.

Mine does that too, with the parameters. It doesn't save them when you exit.
I have to reset them each time i exit Cipher.

something went wrong, truck slowed half a second, forgot to log the TB voltage, but it does not look like it is opening all the way up... don't know what happened, but the timing looks way off all over the place, the truck is running lean now, just glad I still have my original tune saved. I will get them to fix it tomorrow.

Hmmm... did lose over a half second. Logs attached

Well that's no surprise what so ever. Your ECU is in Emissions state and you need to drive 75-100 miles. I don't care what anyone else says after 75-100 miles she will be different. Give it some time.

We must all learn from the master one must follow the way of the asphalt muncher :D.

Well that's no surprise what so ever. Your ECU is in Emissions state and you need to drive 75-100 miles. I don't care what anyone else says after 75-100 miles she will be different. Give it some time.

the TB opening all the way up should not have anything to do with emissions though right? So tomorrow i will run it some more and see if the TB is opening all the way up... it really felt like it wasn't, and it didn't sound like it was either.

We must all learn from the master one must follow the way of the asphalt muncher
HA! You guys are great!

Im just waiting for his come back line man its going be be great. :D

I fell that i have become one with my truck... Like i can feel slight changes, even from just say... adding my stereo system back in the truck... just slight changes I can feel... anyone else like this?

hehe... speaking of stereo stuff. I have like 2 grand worth of stereo equipment that is not even in the truck 99% of the time... go figure.

You will start to learn and know when the truck is going to run hard based on ambient temps and weather conditions. I can always tell when I'm going to have a good data log also listen to your intake and RPM's you should be able to hear a difference in the tone of the truck when is running good or at least I can. Lean is mean :D

the TB opening all the way up should not have anything to do with emissions though right? So tomorrow i will run it some more and see if the TB is opening all the way up... it really felt like it wasn't, and it didn't sound like it was either.

Please log complete params and then post or send them to me via email. BUT I don't want to see then until after driven 100miles on the new reflash.

I was home today, bored. So, i pulled out the 100ft. extention cord & hook the PC up to my truck, for the re-flash. The C-Tune he sent me is faster than what i had, but i'm not sure how much. Pulls better through the shifts too. I'm sure it needs to be leaned a little, but i like it, so far. I put 45 miles on it, i'll
post some Data Log's tomorrow.

i will go put some miles on her today... don't think i can put 100 on it, but I will see how many i can get in.

Ok i have about 75 miles on the new tune... RB is right, it does come along when some miles are put on her, it is running like a slightly raped ape right now, but still does not feel as fast as it used to be. Will make some runs tonight, hopefully this drizzle will clear out.

My truck got slower. What gives? Feels like it's shifting better though. Here i thought i was going to be posting some fast times, but that didn't happen.
I hope Up/Rev figures this out kwick. How my tunes do i have to go through, before i can get faster than 8 sec. 0-60. My fastest time ever was 7.96sec.
This is very aggrovating. Now i have to wait ???? to get an update again. This is starting to become VERY inconveniant. I don't think you guy's have to worry about me, beating you @ the track on Sun. -Fustrated

I logged the wrong AFR on the 1st. one. You can see the ign. though.
CRAP CRAP CRAPPY TIMES!!!!!!!!!
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...update. I just spoke with Jared briefly. He said he was out of town, but would try to send me an update before Sunday. I'll keep my fingures croosed till then.

My truck got slower. What gives? Feels like it's shifting better though. Here i thought i was going to be posting some fast times, but that didn't happen.
I hope Up/Rev figures this out kwick. How my tunes do i have to go through, before i can get faster than 8 sec. 0-60. My fastest time ever was 7.96sec.
This is very aggrovating. Now i have to wait ???? to get an update again. This is starting to become VERY inconveniant. I don't think you guy's have to worry about me, beating you @ the track on Sun. -Fustrated

I logged the wrong AFR on the 1st. one. You can see the ign. though.
CRAP CRAP CRAPPY TIMES!!!!!!!!!
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...update. I just spoke with Jared briefly. He said he was out of town, but would try to send me an update before Sunday. I'll keep my fingures croosed till then.

THis tune is too rich and needs to be trimmed.

Kingmade you got a good data log to post?

Just to let everyone know, i am a sub 6 sec T... wallace racing calc puts me at 0-60 in 5.7 seconds... exactly one second slower than a twin turbo stock supra :D

Nice! That's %$#%$# FAST man!!!

...According to their 0-60 calc. my 0-60, on my last run @ the track, was 6.49 WOW! It didn't feel like there was that much more traction? Can't wait for my TT to get here.