Jet tech has informed me on a set of leaf spring helpers for the back. if you have a clunking noise under hard acceleration its due to axle wrap or axle twist. these leaf spring helpers completly fix this, they also help with the bumpy ride in back and TRACTION. they basically act like traction bars to keep your axle from rolling foward and planting power to the ground. found these springs at local auto parts plus store for 22 bucks and they only took about 10 minutes to insall while truck is just sittin there, no jacking it up.
this is by far the best thing I have bought for my truck and is a must! every one should put these on there trucks.
hopefully jettech will chime in here and give some more info on what is happening and what they fix

thanks for the good pics i will have to get a set of these

here is the thread on TT start from beggining and jet tech comes in around page 3 with all the technical stuff thats goin on.
www.titantalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11185

I've had these since Jet first posted on TitanTalk and I can vouch for them. They really tighten up the handling, are simple to put on and don't cost much.

What's not to like???

Do it.

I will definitely be getting some. Is there a particular part number or model # we should look for?

If I remember correctly the part# is 18920. Is that the number on the box smokedya2?

Also if you need more pics there are some on both web sites I have in my signature.

If I remember correctly the part# is 18920. Is that the number on the box smokedya2?

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the number sound correct, but I cant check because I already threw box away. if it helps, there was only 1 size of these at auto parts plus, you cant miss them

Where to order them from or get them? Now I see some say it makes the truck handle better. But how can that help the ride? I think the truck is too bouncy still. Will this help that from being so rough?

titan_tx,
you can get these from any of your local auto parts store. in my opinion it took the bouncyness away, it does stiffen up the back alittle but it takes the rubbery feel out of the back which gives you the bouncy feel. my trucks back end also went down by a half inch, but the take-off axle wrap is cured and traction is improved.

Be sure that you follow JetTech's install directions and not the ones that come in the box!!!!!!!!

by his instructions u mean mounting in front of axel? and should i do this to my titan even if i dont have the problem, just to improve traction?

yes shift, mount them in front of the axle even if you don't have the axle wrap problem. It will make a world of difference in how the truck handles and rides. Give it a shot, I bet you'll love them..

do the bolts need to be torqued? in the kit what are the two useless screw things, they have no thread and are round headed?

those 2 useless things are spacers that can be added to the back of the spring to increase tension. I wouldn't bother using them because once the spring is tightened down.....REAL TIGHT....that will be all the help those springs need. And when your tightening the U-Bolt tighten it evenly, check for the same amount of threads sticking out above the nut.

I picked up the Superior kit today from Autozone. So I will have to install this probably this weekend or next weekend. Can't wait!

I picked up the Superior kit today from Autozone. So I will have to install this probably this weekend or next weekend. Can't wait!

Cool, hopefully you'll be another very satisfied user of these springs. They're awesome, make sure to let us know how you like them.

one down fall I have found to these springs is that its harder for me to break both tires loss around a corner and kick the a$$ end out to fish tail it :( . Still can do it though, just takes more pedal to scare the crap out of my passengers :D

Well installed mine this morning. Had a little clearance issue with the bolt near the front of the truck. It wants to hit the frame. You guys need to check yours. Because when that leaf spring flexes, its going to make a mark on the frame. I used a hacksaw to cut a little bit off the end of the bolt for more clearance. After a short drive, I can tell in turns the back end stays planted better, but over bumps, etc I am not sure if there is a difference really yet. We will see.

I don't understand why you had that problem, as I have had mine on for many months now and there is enough clearance with no sign of ever hitting the frame. Maybe it's a different brand?

I don't understand why you had that problem, as I have had mine on for many months now and there is enough clearance with no sign of ever hitting the frame. Maybe it's a different brand?

Unless you look, the bolt that goes sideways across the top of the leaf spring was less than .25 of a inch from the side of the frame rail. I didn't want to take a chance so I shaved it down some more.

I looked, that's what I'm trying to tell you.

Jet tech has informed me on a set of leaf spring helpers for the back. if you have a clunking noise under hard acceleration its due to axle wrap or axle twist. these leaf spring helpers completly fix this, they also help with the bumpy ride in back and TRACTION. they basically act like traction bars to keep your axle from rolling foward and planting power to the ground. found these springs at local auto parts plus store for 22 bucks and they only took about 10 minutes to insall while truck is just sittin there, no jacking it up.
this is by far the best thing I have bought for my truck and is a must! every one should put these on there trucks.
hopefully jettech will chime in here and give some more info on what is happening and what they fix

I've been to auto zone, nappa, and o'reiley lookin for these. They all have Superior 3-way adjustable Leaf Helper Springs. Not the same as the ones pictured here. They have em for 1000 and 1500 lbs. Are these the same, only a different brand? 1000 or 1500 lbs? They also have a wide price range--Auto Zone: 20.00, Napa: 40.00. Their Part # is 1020 or 1030. Let me know if anyone knows if they are the same. Thanks!!

Hi Deb, I'll see what I can find later on this evening unless someone beats me to it. I do know you can order them online if you can't find them locally.

JT,
Just Curious, What options do you have on your Titan?

I have the Bigtow (Stiffer rear springs), with the Offroad (Rancho shocks), and haven't Experienced this problem. Or, am I not Driving RADICAL Enough?

Is This some thing I may experience when I open it up? (ie Exhaust, Intake)

I've got the same options tattoo. The axle wind up was horrible on the 2WD Titan I had, but with this one it's not so bad. There are a few drivetrain differences between the 2 and 4wd versions that may have a lot to do with it. I installed them on my 4x4 more for traction and handling purposes than axle windup issues. There's been a ton of really satisfied people with this mod so give it a shot if you haven't yet. If you don't like it for any reason your only out $22....

JT,
I Stand Corrected, I read the thread on TT, and discovered I have the same prob! I did notice the Bump after stopping and "***-umed" it was the utili-trac covers sliding and hitting the front of the bed.
Today it still does it, after inspection I found my toolbags sitting on the covers! (they're pinned, so they're NOT causing the "Bump")

Forgive me, I'm Not Worthy! :D :D

Tattoomee,
I read this thread and never noticed that " bump" sound. The only sound I heard was the two utility track covers sliding and hitting my bed. I guess thats what I get for assuming. So, i guess its off to spend my $22.
On another note, since you and I were big with the exhaust questions, I figured I would tell you my Gibson Extreme Dual kit was shipped today!!!

I'm personally looking for better traction. EVERYTIME I have to make a QUICK turn (ie lefthand turn to beat oncoming traffic), the tires Break loose, the VDC senses this, and SHUTS me Down! $HIT!
So, I've learned if I Need to make a Quick Move, I have to disable the VDC on the Dash, and Lite'EM UP!

IF this fix Helps to Eliminate this, I will be Overwhelmed!

Crew,
I Hope you have the technology to Record a sound Byte? It won't be til this spring B/4 I can afford to get an Exhaust kit, but I'm wavering between the Flowmaster 70 and the Gibson. I can't wait to Hear your 'Pipes!

Before I go get these, has any one tried the Roadmaster active suspension www.activesuspension.com
I had a friend who had them on his Chevy. He loved it. I just never gave it any thought at the time
It costs more but is it worth it?

Same product, different Application.
The beauty of the $22 helper spring, is that you don't USE it as a helper spring.
If you place them behind the axle (tailgate side) it helps handle a heavier load. If you place them on the front side of the axle (cab side), they act as a TRACTION bar w/o the Price or bulkiness of Traction bars.
Kinda like "Stealth" bars.
Get it? 8) :wink:

Got my $22 (er $24, down here) "traction bars" installed today.
When I did a test drive, the rearend is much more Solid! No Sway! and upon Take-off, it Lauches the front end, instead of Squatting the rear.

Thanks JT!
You're My HERO! :lol: :lol: :lol:

coool, another satisfied customer. Just make sure the U-Bolts are REALLY tight or the springs will migrate forward. Just keep an eye on them for the next several days to make sure you got them tight enough.

i love these when you go around a corner and the tires do break lose, when they finally grab they dont just grab they LAUNCH :D

Jet tech has informed me on a set of leaf spring helpers for the back. if you have a clunking noise under hard acceleration its due to axle wrap or axle twist. these leaf spring helpers completly fix this, they also help with the bumpy ride in back and TRACTION. they basically act like traction bars to keep your axle from rolling foward and planting power to the ground. found these springs at local auto parts plus store for 22 bucks and they only took about 10 minutes to insall while truck is just sittin there, no jacking it up.
this is by far the best thing I have bought for my truck and is a must! every one should put these on there trucks.
hopefully jettech will chime in here and give some more info on what is happening and what they fix

I've been to auto zone, nappa, and o'reiley lookin for these. They all have Superior 3-way adjustable Leaf Helper Springs. Not the same as the ones pictured here. They have em for 1000 and 1500 lbs. Are these the same, only a different brand? 1000 or 1500 lbs? They also have a wide price range--Auto Zone: 20.00, Napa: 40.00. Their Part # is 1020 or 1030. Let me know if anyone knows if they are the same. Thanks!!

I believe they are the same, cause that is what I bought at Auto-Zone for $27.00 about a month ago. It raised the back up a little and yes it as more traction. Luv'em.

hmmm.ill have to try em myself. sounds like a good deal , what do I have to lose. :)

hmmm.ill have to try em myself. sounds like a good deal , what do I have to lose. :)

$22-24.

Just put a set of these on my truck this weekend, haven't really been able to test them out yet. But the install was easy enough to do.

I broke One of mine-Already?!
The front bracket/holder on the right side broke-away from the leaf at the rivet.
Now, everytime I take a Hard Left (under acceleration) it SQUEAKS!

I broke One of mine-Already?!
The front bracket/holder on the right side broke-away from the leaf at the rivet.
Now, everytime I take a Hard Left (under acceleration) it SQUEAKS!

Geez, give ya a new toy, and you gotta break it! Go to your room! :cigar:

:crying:

Man I love this site!!!!
Now I have to go and get me a set.
need to make sure that I read all of the helpfull hints before instal.
I do have a question though.
I wonder if it helps with trac in front of axle and helps with load behind
axle would it be plausable to get a set for
front and rear of axle to do both?

Man I love this site!!!!
Now I have to go and get me a set.
need to make sure that I read all of the helpfull hints before instal.
I do have a question though.
I wonder if it helps with trac in front of axle and helps with load behind
axle would it be plausable to get a set for
front and rear of axle to do both?

Front and rear of the axle.....hmmm I don't know if I would try that. I can't really come up with a good reason not to try it other then it would probably ride terrible.

I've found that it kinda "Stiffens" the rear Flex.
(Could be the reason I broke one already) LOL

If it reduces the spring flex, then it also is "Helping" the Spring. I Really don't think you would need an additional set?

Will the reverse helper springs have any issues with the truck being loaded to GVWR? I have a 22' 5th wheel trailer that I tow.

BTW I have a 4x4 SE with BT

Thanks,
Loran

It Shouldn't.

The item I broke, was the front holder, which is Riveted to the helper. I had to "persuade" or "modify" the holder to fit, and I weakened the rivet. I think with one to many "Hard Turns" it snapped it loose, now it Squeaks, so I just Removed it.
Its main purpose (in this application) is to prevent the leaf from twisting causing "wheel hop". If anything it would help when you have it "Loaded".

Front and rear of the axle.....hmmm I don't know if I would try that. I can't really come up with a good reason not to try it other then it would probably ride terrible.
Hey, I just read everything here and at TT. So I have an '05 model ( 4x2 CC ) and I don't have the clunk. The increased grip sounds nice... But here is my question... I live in San Diego and the freeways here have that... someone called it washboard... small bounce bounce bounce at speed. Some pople have said your mod helps. I've been thinking about it and how could it help? Seems to be that this takes out the give in the spring so it would make it worse in that when both rears hit the concrete seam they would pop up more from the added stiffness.

Anyway if you have some time I you enjoy hearing your ideas... this is my first non-sports car... and I love it! The solid axel is a trip for me! :) My wife almost wet her pants the first time I drifted it around a corner- uh, the second day I had it. LOL

Hi DDfan, to answer your question of how these springs reduce the washboard effect on the highway, they stiffen the overall spring rate up, which in this case reduces the amount of wheel hop that occurs on the freeway. Some people have said it made the ride worse but most love it. Heck, it's only a $25 mod, give it a try and see what you think, I know I love'em!!!!

Yup, they really tighten up thte ride..great mod!

best $22

...that would be what...10 gals of gas...

Hi DDfan, to answer your question of how these springs reduce the washboard effect on the highway, they stiffen the overall spring rate up, which in this case reduces the amount of wheel hop that occurs on the freeway. Some people have said it made the ride worse but most love it. Heck, it's only a $25 mod, give it a try and see what you think, I know I love'em!!!!

Well I live in San Diego so it was really $28. Anyway after 8.5 minute install (wow) and three days here's what I think.

1> Braking. Holy sweet axle in the sky! It went from this is pretty good for a truck to DANG(!) this is going to get me rear ended! This alone is worth it.

2> Traction. I miss squealin the tires and driftin' around corners. And I think my gas milage bit it... cuz' it's so freakin fun to punch it!

3> Highway ride. Hum. Washboard is gone. Speed bumps don't launch the back of the truck like some crazy pogo stick. BUT, BUT, BUT, now I have some completely different thing going on. Not wash board but something else. BUT only on certain streaches above 60mph. BUT, see, I live in San Diego. So 60mh on the freeway is a dream! More like 20mph.

CONCLUSION. JetTech, high five! I know some tiny car drivers that spend a few grand for improvements like this! Down side... not sure if it is safe for everyone else to let my extra heavy lead footed wife drive anymore. :)

That's great doubled, glad you like them. I can't wait to get mine back on after I get my rear blocks from PRG. I miss the way the truck handles with them installed. :cry:

This is the most unbelievable mod.
For the past 9 years, I have gone down this warped road that makes anyone inside a stiff riding truck act like they have terrets.
I was even considering buying a Toyota Tacoma because of the smooth ride it had over this road.
NOW my Titan is smoother than the Toyota. It has improved the ride, braking and handling by a factor of 2. I can't say enough praise to you JetTech for this inovative idea. Who would have thought mounting these things in front of the axle would make that kind of difference.
Me, my neck and back are indebted to you. :notworthy: :lol:
As you said, it's the best $20 you will spend on this truck.
By the way, I got mine at AutoZone. They were not the same brand, but man do they work great.

jrw, glad you like them. I just got mine back on today......wooohoooo, I missed them big time!!

What do you think about the front strap? Do you think it will last or corrode? If it does, I think I'll fabricate a S/S strap and put it back on. I will never leave home again without it.

I don't think the front strap will be a problem, but then again no one has had these on long enough to really tell. If it corrodes or breaks a stainless steel one like you mentioned would work great.

They DO Break!
I STILL need to reweld my front bracket back on.

I miss mine, I have them off now until I can get it fixed. Otherwise it "SQUEAKS" very loudly in Heavy turns! Embarrassing.

Hey Sean, I broke the U-bolt while removing my set of helpers a few weeks ago. I removed them because I installed the PRG spacers on the front and wanted the truck to sit somewhat level until I got the rears installed. So yesterday I just stopped in an autozone and bought a new set. I mean heck, for the $24 it cost me, I can't complain.

The secret to stop the squeeking is to spray kroil or WD-40 in between the main springs, I've also heard of people spreading thick bearing grease in there as well which probably would last longer. Oh yeah, be sure to do this BEFORE you install the helpers because as you know they squeeze the springs together.

The secret to stop the squeeking is to spray kroil or WD-40 in between the main springs, I've also heard of people spreading thick bearing grease in there as well which probably would last longer. Oh yeah, be sure to do this BEFORE you install the helpers because as you know they squeeze the springs together.

Thanks for the tip.

With reference to what jrw396 mentioned of adding S/S Brackets (for the front), I wonder, if a "Large" S/S Hose Clamps would work as well? or would they be Strong enuff?
Since the front brackets are there to keep the "helpers" from "Slapping" the springs, then Large Panduit (1/4" wide "wire" ties) Straps would Work as well?

Too bad my name isn't - Jerry?! LOL!

Thanks for the tip.

With reference to what jrw396 mentioned of adding S/S Brackets (for the front), I wonder, if a "Large" S/S Hose Clamps would work as well? or would they be Strong enuff?
Since the front brackets are there to keep the "helpers" from "Slapping" the springs, then Large Panduit (1/4" wide "wire" ties) Straps would Work as well?

Too bad my name isn't - Jerry?! LOL!

I don't know Sean, give it a try and see what happens. You're correct in stating that all they do is keep the springs from slapping upwards so there really isn't any load on them. Let us know what you try and if it works out.

"The secret to stop the squeeking is to spray kroil or WD-40 in between the main springs, I've also heard of people spreading thick bearing grease in there as well which probably would last longer"

If you add the grease(moly), try wrapping it with duct tape and keep it on for a few days, while you drive,to allow the grease to work up inside the springs. Then take the tape off and wipe the outside of the spring off. It seems to last longer.
As far as squeeks go, once I had a squeek coming from front the bushings on my Dodge, sprayed it with WD 40 and it stopped the squeek for a few weeks,but it attacked the rubber and within 8 weeks I was replacing them with poly bushings. Another real noticable improvement over stock bushings.

I wish I would have know about JetTech's spring helper, because that would have improved it's ride too.

I wonder what material the Nissan bushings are?

Rubber bushings don't like WD-40 at all. Silicone is the recommended lubricant to use on them but I've not had much luck in the past using that either on my other vehicles. The sway bar bushings on my mercedes used to squeak terribly when they got cold, I never did find a permanent solution to it. Polyurethane bushings would be the way to go on the spring shackles and the front sway bar bushings. I used to run those on my mustangs and they worked great with no noise at all. Perhaps someone will offer some poly bushings for the Titan in the near future.

Well, I went to "Home Creepo" today and picked up some new hardware (washers,locks, and 4 S/S 2.75" Pipe Clamps!)

Remounted the helpers, and "Splooged" some Grease between the leafs. Replaced the front "Holding brackets" w/two clamps each.
Took a small jaunt (about 60miles), they Appear to be holding pretty good! We'll see.
I'd show you a pic, but somehow that option is not available to me?

"Perhaps someone will offer some poly bushings for the Titan in the near future."
I'm in on the poly. They do make a difference, and they last forever. I used the black instead of the colored version, because the black is impregnated with graphite (or something slick) and you never have to lubricate them. They recommend you lubricate the colored versions and some even add zerk fittings.
Tattoomee; please keep us posted if anything happens to those brackets. I may do some preventative maintanence and do it myself in a few months if yours work.
PS: My wife and I took off for a Sunday drive to see the Texas bluebonnets and she said what did you do to smooth out the ride. I said I added JetTech's spring helpers. She says "Thanks JetTech". :amazing:

i cant find any of the leaf spring helpers at any of the local stores. ive searched online and couldnt find them either. please let me know if anyone knows of a place i can order them online. Thanks!

I got mine at auto zone.
Found them at O'Reileys also. I believe JCWhitney has them also.

Well its been a month, and my "Jerry-Rigged" S/S Clamps are STILL Holding, and better than the originals?!
Still no Squeak!

Well its been a month, and my "Jerry-Rigged" S/S Clamps are STILL Holding, and better than the originals?!
Still no Squeak!
That's good to hear. I tightened all my bolts up 2 weeks ago and everything looks good. I'll be adding the SS hose clamps once mine wear out. Keep us posted if you have any issues, although it seems like the hose clamps will last alot longer than the soft metal standard ones. I don't want to do anything now, because the ride is sooooooo smooth.
Thanks again JetTech for the idea and Tatoomee for the mod to the mod.

Just figured I would add another post about someone happy with thier experience. I live down dirt roads and it has really improved that 1/2 mile drive I make twice daily.

So what weight setting are people installing these at, 1000, 1500, or 2000 lbs? Mine is at 1000 and I have not felt the ride has changed any. Maybe it is because roads are pretty well taken care of around where I live.

How do yo know the setup for the weight? My instructions only listed the position of the little steel rivet thingy. I think I set at medium something. I did feel a change though. The suspension feels less bouncy.

I set my Rivet "Thingy" to the Highest setting!

JT, The Pipe Clamps are STILL Holding!

I set my Rivet "Thingy" to the Highest setting!

JT, The Pipe Clamps are STILL Holding!

That's really cool tattoo......that was a great idea you came up with!!

I agree. I used to see those S. helpers at Pep Boys and I always wondered if they were any good. Now that I have tried them, I think they are a great mod if you consider it'll coost you only $22.
I mean... I really like the way my truck handles now!

:?: I haven't looked at my truck yet as it hasn't been delivered yet but I was wondering if this mod would work by mounting the helper above and behind the axle? This might look cleaner? Just a thought. I mean if we're not going to follow the directions why not go all the way? :D
Chris

:?: I haven't looked at my truck yet as it hasn't been delivered yet but I was wondering if this mod would work by mounting the helper above and behind the axle? This might look cleaner? Just a thought. I mean if we're not going to follow the directions why not go all the way? :D
Chris
I don't have an answer for you CJ, but try it and let us know. We know it works mounted forward, but I didn't try it the other way, because I was so pleased with the ride I haven't touched a thing outside of retightening the bolts after the first week.

:?: I haven't looked at my truck yet as it hasn't been delivered yet but I was wondering if this mod would work by mounting the helper above and behind the axle? This might look cleaner? Just a thought. I mean if we're not going to follow the directions why not go all the way? :D
Chris

Although it looks good on paper, Because of "Gravity", it won't work the way it's described here.
The Titan will Still "Squat" (Which is what we're trying to avoid) upon take-off.

Besides, the only way you can see them on your Titan, is if you're looking for them.
Paint them to match your leafs, and they'll "Disappear"! :future:

Tattoomee ,
You're exactly correct, I thought about it some more :airhead: . The other issue with 'my install' would be under acceleration all the torque would be trying to break the clamp at the end of the helper spring. The way you guys have it installed it squeezes itself together and puts significantly less stress on the attachment hardware.
Chris

I just ordered my rear swaybar from Hellwig and they have these also. $30 for the Titan Talk group and they have the same warranty and quality you'd expect from Hellwig. I looked at the ones at the part sotres and after seeing the pictures of the broken one that someone had, I wasn't sure I wanted to mess with it. When Nacy said they had them I added them. I'll try to snap some pictures (of both) so the difference will be evident.

WOW I can see everybody is excited about those spring helpers

:D The best 24.79 I ever spent! Autozone in Dover DE had em in stock even. 20 minute install and what a difference. That is the shift he he.

Thanks Jet for the great advice !!!
Only if the dealer was as smart as you LOL.

I was thinking of fabricating a true set of traction bars instead. Anybody done this yet?

Mitch

anyone come up with a definate part number so i can order my set???,

cant wait to do this

anyone come up with a definate part number so i can order my set???,

cant wait to do this

All you have to do is call Hellwig and ask for Nancy. Tell her you're a member here and at TT and you get a discount just for posting about it, tell her you want the half leaf helper springs. They're like $30 and have a lifetime warranty. Unless of course, you want the full leaf which are more expensive. I called today because I still havn't gotten my order. It seems UPS politely sent my order to New Orleans. Bastards....

actually i meant the set i can get at an auto part store

actually i meant the set i can get at an auto part store

Have you seen the pictures of the one that broke? That's why I was leary of buying them. When I found out Hellwig had them it was a no brainer, you can be assured they will be better built and they are only like $5 more.

no i didnt see that pic, makes me think, well, being i just put them on, ill just have to keep an eye on them, only differance i feel so far is that there is alot less body roll on turns and curves, i havent noticed better traction tho, tires still break loose when i punch it

no i didnt see that pic, makes me think, well, being i just put them on, ill just have to keep an eye on them, only differance i feel so far is that there is alot less body roll on turns and curves, i havent noticed better traction tho, tires still break loose when i punch it

The only way to stop that is better tires. Traction bars stop axel twist and in coil spring rear ends prevent wheel hop, they won't make the rubber any stickier.

ok, thanks, i guess i misread a few peoples replies to this thread saying there tires planted better to the road

ok, thanks, i guess i misread a few peoples replies to this thread saying there tires planted better to the road

Well, in a way it does. When you stomp it and the axel twists, that eats power that could be put to the street. Stopping the twist puts all the power to the tires against the pavement effectivly reducing drive train power loss. With the OEM tires you should see more spin because more power is making it all the way to the tire. Put a drag radial or a slick on it and you will see an instantanious big difference.

ok, in a way thats what i was thinkin should have happends, thanks again

Ok. I did this mod along with the throttle body coolant bypass mod 2 days ago. I haven't had a real chance to get out and drive until tonight. My girlfriend and I went out around 11pm, got some Dunkin Doughnuts coffee, and rode out into the county. (this is where there are large/long straights of road). I probably launched the Titan 5 or 6 times, building speed up to 80mph or so, before slowing down for curves etc...and EVERYtime I came up with the same conclusion! THESE THINGS WORK WELL!!! The tires break loose for a second (less than that..only letting out a bark) before launching out. I even power braked a couple of times...The wheels spun in place until I released the brake, then they gave a "yelp" and the Titan launched away again. The spring mod helps transfer the energy right into the road in the form of FORWARD MOTION...instead of spinning wheels. Great $25 investment. I noticed that someone couldn't find these helpers. I went to Autozone, near the towing accessories and rear end accessories. It was the ONLY box they had. Generic "one size fits all" concept. Good luck finding them...b/c they're worth it! I miss the spinning tires, but this really helped throw us in the chair, upping points in the butt dyno! Thanks JT!

:fan2: :fan2: :fan3: :fan3: :fan2: :fan2:

yea i found them at advance auto in the same section, it was worth the 25 bucks no doubt, after having them on for a week or so i have noticed a little more jump on take off, also did the TB bypass mod at the same time, overall, good results, less body roll, less tire hop on bumpy turns, you can actually feel there is more power hittin the road...

yea i found them at advance auto in the same section, it was worth the 25 bucks no doubt, after having them on for a week or so i have noticed a little more jump on take off, also did the TB bypass mod at the same time, overall, good results, less body roll, less tire hop on bumpy turns, you can actually feel there is more power hittin the road...

They definitely make the front end feel like it's going to come off the ground. Glad you like them.....!!

Does anybody else have these with the factory OL springs? They have stiffened the suspension enough that it breaks traction over rough pavement. Steady state cornering is definitely improved and when you jump on it, there's a lot more response. It feels like it's about to get a great burnout, then the computer knows that those new tires are too expensive to smoke and backs off the throttle so there's just enough noise to turn a cop's head. Gotta love that technology. :grrr: Too bad it doesn't know the deal I made with my wife, when these tires are done I can get a 6-8" lift and move up to bigger tires.

What a simple and cheap mod. Got mine installed today, now I'm off to try them out.

Well, I don't know which leaf spring helper to get(1500lbs?) or how to install them. Where can I find the instalation instructions to mount them infront of the axle? I would like to do this mod as well. The main reason is the wheel hop off roading. Thanks.



Mag

Check out the pictures on the first page of this thread. That looks like the one I bought at Auto Zone. I think it was made by Superior. Bolt it up like the box and photo show. There's a rivet that goes into one of the holes in the short end of the helper, by the U bolt. That's what sets the preload on the spring. Get the long end as close to the front spring eye as you can, like in the photo. Bolt everything up tight, go out, find a hemi and smoke him. :flamer:

how tight do you guys tighten the u-bolts?? i have it tightened to about 9 threads (from the top) i think i can go more..should i. i had it on for about a week and no parts are lose soooo do i just tighten it anyway, i dont want to tighten it too much that it puts a bunch of strain on the u-bolts to break it and have it come off while driving and cause damage to my truck...what do you think??

how tight do you guys tighten the u-bolts?? i have it tightened to about 9 threads (from the top) i think i can go more..should i. i had it on for about a week and no parts are lose soooo do i just tighten it anyway, i dont want to tighten it too much that it puts a bunch of strain on the u-bolts to break it and have it come off while driving and cause damage to my truck...what do you think??

It's called a torque wrench :beating: , they are available at sears, home depot, etc. I haven't looked at the u-bolts on my titan, but typically 1/2" u-bolts torque to 100 ft/lbs. The torque spec should be in the online service manuals.

Mitch

actually i was talking about tightening the u-bolts on theleaf spring helpers not the truck itself..hence the topic, anyway they dont have a specific torque so how tight should they be??

how tight do you guys tighten the u-bolts?? i have it tightened to about 9 threads (from the top) i think i can go more..should i. i had it on for about a week and no parts are lose soooo do i just tighten it anyway, i dont want to tighten it too much that it puts a bunch of strain on the u-bolts to break it and have it come off while driving and cause damage to my truck...what do you think??

It's called a torque wrench :beating: , they are available at sears, home depot, etc. I haven't looked at the u-bolts on my titan, but typically 1/2" u-bolts torque to 100 ft/lbs. The torque spec should be in the online service manuals.

Mitch


wow how did that earlier post happen?? anyway....actually i was talking about tightening the u-bolts on the leaf spring helpers not the truck itself..hence the topic, anyway they dont have a specific torque so how tight should they be??

I don't know what torque would work with the helper springs, I just tightened the heck out of mine. I'm sure 80 to 100ft/lbs. would work fine as long as the leafs are fully compressed at that torque.

Well, I don't know how tight you have to have them. I tried as much as I could to get them tight but they kept sliding to the front. I removed them last week...

a 3/8" bolt is typically torqued to 60 ft/lbs, I'm guessing that's what the clamps in the helper kit are.

Mitch

Well, I don't know how tight you have to have them. I tried as much as I could to get them tight but they kept sliding to the front. I removed them last week...
so how long did you keep them on, i dont see any problems with mine yet, but i also installed them as close to the leaf spring eye as i could and so fr no problem.....anyone else has problems with this?? i have the same helpers as JETTECH..

a 3/8" bolt is typically torqued to 60 ft/lbs, I'm guessing that's what the clamps in the helper kit are.

Mitch

thanks mitch, now i need to just check it

I really haven't noticed this phenomonem on my '05. Should I install one anyway?

Thanks

I really haven't noticed this phenomonem on my '05. Should I install one anyway?

Thanks

I have an 05' too, i just got mine on Aug 16 05 and there is a big difference in how the truck takes off when you punch it, you should try it. its only 22-28 bucks depending where you get them.

I installed the helper springs yesterday afternoon. Bought my set at a local Autozone for $26 and change. It is Superior Automotive Leaf Helper Springs, 3- way adjustable, No. 11-1020, up to 1500#. The only reason I tried them was to help eliminate the shake, quiver or residual bouncing when I pass speed bumps or a washboard surface. I hogged them down yesterday and went for a test drive. Preliminary results are mixed. The truck still quivered when passing over some speed bumps, but not all. Ride quality seemed not to have changed, however. So far, not a total wash. I remember someone putting SS hose clamps on their springs. I was not ready to give up on this mod just yet, this morning I got the old torque wrench out and torqued the 3/4" nuts to 50 ft-lbs. I think I compressed the main helper spring more. Also, I wrapped the SS hose clamps around the forward end of the helper springs and the main spring pack. Took another test drive, and they seem, I repeat seem to have done their job. I don't feel the truck quiver as in they have in the past. The true test will come next week when I travel my usual route to and from work. I hope they do their job. BTW, the truck did lower a little bit in the back.

I finally got on the bandwagon and installed these, more for the towing I've been writing about than anything else. I am so dissapointed that I didn't do this sooner!!!! The back end tightened up nicely and the ugly sound of the axle dropping off the back of the truck when I roll over large bumps is gone!!! Amazing. True test will be this weekend when I tow that big *** trailer from Virginia Beach to Annapolis and back. I'll let you know how it works out.

Man, I saw this about a month back and went and got it the next day. I am so glad I did :rofl:
My clunk on acceleration is GONE, It's awesome. Great work JET.

i just bought and installed the leaf helper springs from auto zone, theyre not jet tech, some other brand, but they look identical, and they are installed in front of the axle, my only problem is that my tires still break loose from stops and when i go hard around corner.

There appears to be some confusion about the "Jet Tech" part of these. JetTech is a CT member who, I believe, introduced us to these helpers. The springs I installed are Superior brand. I installed them for load support, not traction. I like my tires too much to intetionally spin them.

Maybe JT should work a deal w/ all the manufacturers of these and get PAID! He has single handedly been responsible for more sales of these than anyone.

:P I appreciate the info. I bought these from autozone for about $27.00 I havent owned my titan for a long time to really get use to the handling but, I'll tell you what a change in traction! Its so tight in the rear end now. No more bouncing either! This works good post!
Thanks again,
Chris from upstate NY.
Nissan Titan LE 05
Red Brawn

Maybe JT should work a deal w/ all the manufacturers of these and get PAID! He has single handedly been responsible for more sales of these than anyone.

Group Buy

Are you suggesting or setting one up? I was planning on picking these up this weekend.

These are so cheap that a GB probably wouldn't be worth the shipping and effort.

Mitch

Are you suggesting or setting one up? I was planning on picking these up this weekend.

It's only a suggestion.

I am surprised that one of our sponsors hasn't jumped on this one. It must be because the price at the local auto parts dealers is so low.
Good luck on your install this weekend.

Are you suggesting or setting one up? I was planning on picking these up this weekend.

It's only a suggestion.

I am surprised that one of our sponsors hasn't jumped on this one. It must be because the price at the local auto parts dealers is so low.
Good luck on your install this weekend.Thanks, but I have to buy them first. AutoZone here I come!

So I picked these up and installed them already. Pretty easy, but wondering if the bracket side of it should be super tight, and if so, how do you tighten it up? The U-bolt side is cranked down, but there is no way to tighten up the bracket side...

Sadly, this is the FIRST mod I've done to the new truck! HA!

I just took mine off today. I got sick of having to crawl under the truck every 2 weeks to tighten the bolts back up. Actually the passenger side front bracket was about ready to fall off. The nut fell off and the bolt was just barely hanging there. I'm gonna see if a buddy of mine has any use for them, if not I will Karma them out.....

How many nuts were installed on the bolt? For the front brackets, you should have two nuts. One serves as a lock nut. I've had mine on for just about a month and have not had to retighten anything.

I just took mine off today. I got sick of having to crawl under the truck every 2 weeks to tighten the bolts back up. Actually the passenger side front bracket was about ready to fall off. The nut fell off and the bolt was just barely hanging there. I'm gonna see if a buddy of mine has any use for them, if not I will Karma them out.....

I did the same thing... I kept retightening the bolts to no avail. I was tired of hearing that "clunk" all the time (the S.helper sliding ti the very end of the leaf) So I was like "forget it... no Spring helpers for me!!!"

I like my tires too much to intetionally spin them.

LOL <3 same here. The precious all terrain tires have a a hell of a price tag too.......EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT HOW GOOD THEY ARE....I NEED TO GET THEM!!![/quote]

How many nuts were installed on the bolt? For the front brackets, you should have two nuts. One serves as a lock nut. I've had mine on for just about a month and have not had to retighten anything.

Had both of the nuts properly installed on the front bracket, but it was mostly the larger nuts on the back U-bolts that kept coming loose. Gave them to my buddy to use the "proper" way on his truck.

I've been following this "$22 you can spend on your truck" forum thread because the infamous thump/clunk was present on my 5 week old.

I took it to the dealer twice, at which I could not reproduce. I headed straight to the auto parts store and bought 'Superior's' leaf helpers and installed.

Like magic, the thump/clunk is gone in addition to: better traction, better breaking from rear, tighter handling around turns and a half-inch drop.

I installed helpers 1mm from front eye of spring and used locktite on all.

By far, this is the best mod I could have ever installed ! !

i can not get the origanal pics of these thing. anyone got these is so could you put them in the post. a good cheap mod sounds pretty good to bout now..lol

titanmik

i can not get the origanal pics of these thing. anyone got these is so could you put them in the post. a good cheap mod sounds pretty good to bout now..lol

titanmik

It's the first post in the thread.

http://www.clubtitan.org/modules.php?name=Forums&file=download&id=268

I know that this is an old post, but I am new to the site. I did the "jettech" spring mod yesterday with a set of $24.99 superior spring helpers and the benefits are very noticeable. First of all, my best 0-60 is now 6.20 down from 6.24 because my tires hooked up (.04 is not much but my tires are thanking me). Also, the ride quality on the interstate is noticeably better. But the most noticeable difference is going over larger bumps at lower speeds. The bounce is just not like it used to be. It seems deadened.

If one happens to break...so what! I will go buy another set. I have spent more on things that were awful. Like the JBA headers that I installed. 2 dyas later, I had them pulled back off and for sale on Ebay. Now that was wasted money. This was more than worth it.

CAN SOMEONE TAKE DETAILED PICTURES ON HOW TO install these lol!?!?!? i got an 04 titan and their seems to be a rivit where i want to put the back part. by that i mean the plastic spacer thing and i dont see that rivit on the pics on the first post also, the leaf springs are rounded on mine at the end of them, so its different for me, i belive misery tom has an 04 so can someone help me?

Are you putting them on AHEAD of the axle?? The directions in the box will tell you to put them BEHIND the axle. To benefit like the other members have, these are installed AHEAD of the axle.

im putting them ahead of the axel IM me at ditch64242 please, much faster..

I don't have IM. This is as good as it gets, my friend. Except for email.

k um wanna call me? lol im so lost it is annoying me, i mean i bought them thinking that it wouold work and im sure it will but i dont want to mess anything up

Check your PM folders.

i got it and I LOVE THEM lol im gonna take them off and locktite them now that im sure their in the correct position, THANKS JETTECH!

Speaking of JetTech, where's he been lately? It's been a very long time since I've seen him post anything.

ya same with misery Tom

Does anyone know if these may void the warranty or part of it?

NO!!!!!!!! The only way a mod on your truck can void a warranty is if the part installed, or the process of installing it, can be proven to be the cause of a failure. These will do nothing but improve your Titan and your warranty will be fine.

Hole in my gas tank
What is that supposta mean???

I think what he means by "A hole in the tank" is that his gas mileage is not very good.

yep hole in my gas tank means that i get about 13 miles a galolon so I assume I must be leaking!!! Or I just nail the throttle too much!

Okay so I was so psyched and pisked up a pair or the leaf spriong helpers at Autozone and they were the same part number posted earlier. But when I went to put them on, the clip/Clamp would not fit over the leaf springs! I followed the pictures posted and had them just teh way it said! Do I need to Jack up teh truck??? Help, please!~

You don't need to jack up the truck. Are you following the pictures in the instructions that came with the kit? Because if you are that is where your problem is. The clamp kit needs to go in front of the axle, not behind like the instructions in the box say.

The clamp goes toward the end of the leaf spring, the u-bolt goes closest to the axle.

Getting the clamp (not U-bolt) on was a little tough on mine so I just used a C-clamp to close it down a little so I could put the bolt through the holes. I put one part underneath the clamp and the other part above the leaf spring and then tightened it down. Then the bolt slipped right through. On the other side of the truck it was a little tight, but I eventually wiggled it through.

Shailey,
You have mad a bad day better! Thanks man I was doing it the right way in front of the axle but had teh same troubles you did. I will try the c clamp. Thanks for the tip! I am sorry to say this but am glad you had the same problem so I don't think a got a clamp that was too small.

Glad to help. I thought of something this morning too. If a C-Clamp is not available to anyone doing this mod, a set of vice grips will work also. May be a little tougher, but it will still work. Need anymore help, let me know.

I just recently did this mod...I really like it. It may be me, but it also seems to helped out on the braking end. The truck "seems" to just stop/feel better. I also like the fact it lowered the a$$ end a little.

AutoZone part #--11-1020. Red box, made by Superior Automotive. SKU# 077705111027

Thanks JetTech...u da' man :notworthy:

I also did the TB bypass mod, AirBox mod, and a "custom" version of the active tuning grounding deal...all good :D

are they full or half leaf springs i should use.....i have a 2wd xe king cab

I just bought this mod a few minutes ago, got home and there are 2 nuts for the clamp end and 2 lock washers for the u bolt end. Do you use both lock washers or just one? Also do you need to use 2 nuts on the bolt (clamp end) and if so, how? Do you need to just put one nut on the outside wall of the clamp or a nut on both the inside and outside for a tighter fit? NOt trying to make this mod difficult just didn't see the need for 2 nuts and wasn't sure if it was just an extra.

I just bought this mod a few minutes ago, got home and there are 2 nuts for the clamp end and 2 lock washers for the u bolt end. Do you use both lock washers or just one? Also do you need to use 2 nuts on the bolt (clamp end) and if so, how? Do you need to just put one nut on the outside wall of the clamp or a nut on both the inside and outside for a tighter fit? NOt trying to make this mod difficult just didn't see the need for 2 nuts and wasn't sure if it was just an extra.

are they full or half leaf springs i should use.....i have a 2wd xe king cab

Not leaf springs, leaf spring helpers. They are made by superior automotive, you can find the part number above.

I just bought this mod a few minutes ago, got home and there are 2 nuts for the clamp end and 2 lock washers for the u bolt end. Do you use both lock washers or just one? Also do you need to use 2 nuts on the bolt (clamp end) and if so, how? Do you need to just put one nut on the outside wall of the clamp or a nut on both the inside and outside for a tighter fit? NOt trying to make this mod difficult just didn't see the need for 2 nuts and wasn't sure if it was just an extra.

You definitely need to use everything supplied. One nut and one lock washer on each threaded end of the u-bolt along with the plate.

I figured as much for the lock washer but the issue is that there are 2 plates(1 for each side obviously) and 2 bolts (1 per side) but on each bolt is 2 nuts, no washers, but 2 nuts on each. It would seem that you'de only need the one to tighten the bolt to the plate. I thought it may just be an extra for some reason.......and wondered if anyone else encountered this. I got the exact ones that are featured in the original post from JetTech @ Advanced Auto.

If your referring to the 2 large U bolts, I put flat washers and lock washer on both. My issure was that the lock washer was sinking into the bracket hole, so the flat washer was sized for the U bolt dia.
Be sure to tighten the U bolts, then after a week, go back and tighten some more.
I've had them on about a year now, and haven't had to mess with them since I put them in.
Hope this helps.

not referring to u bolt, referring to other side of spring helper(small plate side)for some reason it has 2 nuts on each bolt

They are to keep the thin metal u bracket from collapsing. The one nut that goes inside closest to the spring, is used as a jam nut for the one on the outside of the u bracket.

ok, that was what I kind of thought, just wanted to find someone else who may have done the install and came across the same situation. Thanks jrw396.......

Just got $22 install done and I can tell a difference on my first drive already. No Axle wrap....Man I wish I had this fix sooner.....Big ShoutOut to JetTech :P

Is this mod helpful on the 2006 model?? I dont notice any noise on my truck, but like the idea of the handling differences. Anyone tried this on the 2006 yet? Just dying to spend money and tinker with the truck. :D

The suspention is the same, so it should work.

I really didn't notice any axle warp either. But I can tell a difference inhandling, ride and when I take off quickly. The rear doesn't feel as 'bouncy' as it did before-much smoother ride.

Thanks Buzzkill thats what I was wondering. I'll have to go try to find them now. :D :D Another project........yahooo!!!

WOW.....nice diff...much better gription...lol. Well, anyway, it went real well, and was well worth the 24 beans. Geez...sure would like to hear more about that Banks though buzz...

Just Installed the new helper springs. Love the feel at launch now. Really sticks you to the back of your seat. Thanks for the Idea. Fishtailed for the first time in the rain today, you think these had anything to do with it? I was getting on it a little more than usual to test the springs on a corner so maybe that was it. Anyway, for such a big truck, it pulled out nicely and got back under control pretty quick.

OK I'm just being picky now, but I'm not sure how tight to get the nuts on the U-bolts. I have 10 threads sticking out on each one. BTW I have the superior brand from autozone. I don't have a torque wrench (hopefully that wont get me kicked out of CT :P) Is this about the right tightness?? Thanks.

Put the Helper Springs on MissBehavin today axel wrap is cured and the stock 245/70/17 Bridgestone banana peels almost stuck on launch :D

Great fix!

I think I will point this out to the 4 service Tech's that "Could not duplicate" the problem.

--Thanks

Is this about the right tightness?? Thanks.

That should work initially. I would drive a few days with hard starts and stops and then see if you can tighten them some more.

I got about 10 threads showing the first time I tigthened them and then after 4 days I brought it down 2 more turns. I also installed an extra U-Bolt kit (also the superior brand) for another $10 and they have not moved since I put them on.

Thanks for posting this mod I did it yesterday. I love it already. Those puppies are never coming off.

Just baought them last night. I'm installing them tomorrow. Hey shailey, do you have a pic of the extra u-bolt?

Hey shailey, do you have a pic of the extra u-bolt?

Yep. Here you go, this piture is in my member's gallery.

http://www.clubtitan.org/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=509&pos=1

Hey shailey, do you have a pic of the extra u-bolt?

Yep. Here you go, this piture is in my member's gallery.

http://www.clubtitan.org/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=509&pos=1Thanks, I haven't installed these yet. Its been to cold.

Added these today, and WOW!! This is a very good mod, I'm always punching it at stop lights, no more axle wrap, no more shitty launches :P

Unbelieveable the difference this makes! Put them on after I put Bilsteins on, the two together are awesome!

Okay I must be special I guess b/c I tried again last weekend to put these things on. I have the exact same part # that others listed here. But even when I use the C clamps to squeeze everything together there is no way to get the clamp on the leaf spring far enough to allow the screw all the way through both sides. I am about to return these things but would love to have them on. Does any one in Charlotte,NC have them on so I can see a better shot that the pix on the website? Any other advice. Yes I am trying to put them on in the front of the leaf spring closer to the cab.

Okay I must be special I guess b/c I tried again last weekend to put these things on. I have the exact same part # that others listed here. But even when I use the C clamps to squeeze everything together there is no way to get the clamp on the leaf spring far enough to allow the screw all the way through both sides. I am about to return these things but would love to have them on. Does any one in Charlotte,NC have them on so I can see a better shot that the pix on the website? Any other advice. Yes I am trying to put them on in the front of the leaf spring closer to the cab.

Put the end that is facing the front of the truck first. I had to turn mine slightly toward the inside of the truck so it laid flat on the spring to get it started. Once you have this end on, then put the 'C' clamp end on and tighten it down.

If needed try to get your hands on C-Clamp and clamp the springs down to get theU-bolt around the springsenough to tighten them. That is what I had to do to get mine on.

Not sure what the problem w/ yours is. I had no issues installing mine whatsoever.....No need to use C-clamp or any other extra tools. Just put them on and screwed them down??????????

The problem that he is having is because sometimes machined parts are just out of spec a little bit. I had the exact same thing happen with mine. When I went to put them on, holes were too far down the clamp for the bolt to go through, even doing it one side at a time. Believe me, I am not mechanically challenged in anyway and I could not squeeze the springs down far enough to get the bolt through with my hands. So I put a C-clamp on it and I had them on in about 2 seconds.

Sometimes when you are dealing with mass produced items, they are not made perfect, it is called tolerances. His just happen to be made a little off specification and sometimes it DOES require a little coercing.

That is what these forums are here for, to help people when they can't get something done, not to down them when they can't.

Thanks Shailey! I am going to try and exchange them for another pair today. I am still looking for another Titan owner in Charlotte though that may have them on, so I can take a better look at it.

You can go to my members gallery and look at the pics in there. I posted them a while back and also put a picture of the extra clamp kit that I put on.That may help you out a bit.

hey will this work on a *cough* 2000 GMC Sierra *cough*?

hey will this work on a *cough* 2000 GMC Sierra *cough*?

I don't see why not. If it doesn't work, you can always take them back....
or trade the GMC in for a Titan and keep the helpers!!

hey will this work on a *cough* 2000 GMC Sierra *cough*?

Sure will, they will work on pretty much any vehicle that uses leaf springs. I've had tons of e-mails and messages from people telling me how they worked wonders on their vans and other makes of trucks. As long as there isn't a clearance issue, they will work great for you. Enjoy!!!

Dale

You know I still can't believe I haven't gotten off my lazy butt and done this mod. Probably the cheapest mod ever on here and still haven't done it.
I really need a clone to deligate some work to.
LoL
m4ck

I'm going to do this this afternoon.

Anyone have the link for the TB bypass mod real quick?

Thanks

Andrew

Got them, about to hook them up.

Does the front C-hook bracket go in front of the bracket on the leaf spring or behind it? Because it seems to short to allow me to put it behind it.

Andrew

I put these on and the acceleration clunk is gone and the final stop is almost perfect.

I DID have a question about my install....

I put the C-bracket ahead of the little band on the leaf spring.... I could have put it behind the spring but that would have required modification of the C-bracket. Should I remove and replace it? It seems to be working great right now, buth sides ratcheted to about 9 threads.

Andrew

You did it right. Go back through this thread and you'll see some pics you can use to check it, but I'm thinking you did it right.

Here's a link for those of you that need the item shipped (or you can even buy it and pick it up from a local auto parts dealer).

Make Waves 18921 Helper Springs (http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?categorycode=3197&sourcepage=SEARCHRESULTS&mfrcode=MWI&mfrpartnumber=18921)

I'm picking mine up this afternoon and installing them ASAP. Thanks!

Has anyone put these helper springs in front of and to the rear of the axle? (two sets). If so, did it help with axle wrap AND hauling?

WOW! These things are AMAZING... I just got back from ripping up the streets with my new $22 (but really $28) Spring Helpers... you can definitly feel the difference in the ride. I was very sceptical at first about putting these things on, I didn't think too much would come of it, but I am a believer now. It feels like the back of the truck sits up just a little bit higher and the ride quality is just amazing.

Traction: During acceleration the tires stick to the street like white on rice.

Braking: Huge improvement... stops on a dime. Felt like a few G's of force where before all I could feel was the ABS going to work trying to keep the tires on the ground.

If you havn't installed these yet... Just do it!

My local AutoZone wants $38 for these! I need to check at another store, I'm just surprised there could be such a price difference.

Mouting these in the front will it still help with the capacity and reduce the sag or mounting them in the back do that. I pull my travl trailer and I notice a slight dip and want to be able to keep it still level

I found that it did help with the sag a bit, but to really keep it level and help the handling of the rig, get a weight distribution hitch. Wonderful invention.

I broke my passenger side one yesterday.

Brought it back to Autozone where they swapped it out. Hope it doesn't happen again

Andrew

How did it break? Normal wear and tear or did it hit something you were driving over?

How did it break? Normal wear and tear or did it hit something you were driving over?

No dude it broke right where the helper meets the U-bolt. Like there was too much pressure on it or the material used wasn't strong enough or something.

Andrew

I found that it did help with the sag a bit, but to really keep it level and help the handling of the rig, get a weight distribution hitch. Wonderful invention.

I have a weight distribution hitch drawtight 850Lb spring bars And they do keep everything level I just wanted to make it a little more firmer in the rear

Quick question. I just put these on my truck yesterday.
I have 10 threads left, above the clamp. Does this sound right to someone? I tightened it a bunch, but could do more if I tried. I don't want to over tighten it.
Thanks,
Scott

Get it as tight as you possibly can. Then in a day or so after giving it a chance to give, tighten it up some more.

Get it as tight as you possibly can. Then in a day or so after giving it a chance to give, tighten it up some more.
Agreed. I put mine on tight, but not as tight as I could. I forgot to go back and tighten them up and the fronts ended up coming off.

why do i want to follow the jet tech and not the instructions in the box what is the difference in the two?

Jet Tech's instructions will take care of any so called "axle wrap" and act more like traction bars than spring helpers. When I installed mine this way, I felt the back end of the truck feel much more solid and secure going over bumps and during take off.

why do i want to follow the jet tech and not the instructions in the box what is the difference in the two?
JetTech's instructions have them mounted in the opposite direction of the normal installation.

but can see what my next mod will be.if this many people like em they must be good.

why do i want to follow the jet tech and not the instructions in the box what is the difference in the two?

The difference is that if you install them the way that they are intended, it allow you to carry more weight and can cause the ride to become more bouncy. If you install them on the front, it allows them to keep tension on the springs, therefore they will not flex during take off as bad as stock. I other words it helps reduce axle wrap.

Get it as tight as you possibly can. Then in a day or so after giving it a chance to give, tighten it up some more.
Hmmm that reminds me i better check mine again. Ive had them on for over 10 months now and have had to readjust them every couple months (they seem to slide forward abit every few thousand miles). As shailey said tighten them as tight as you can. Then check em every month or so.

Man I want to thank all that posted on these helper springs I installed mine just now and from what I can tell by just taking it around the block a few times this Mod is killer I will post my thoughts on it as I drive it more But I know that I am going to be very happy with this cheap mod thanks again to JetTech for coming up with this Peace Out......

I have the big tow package on my toy, is the leaf spring really help that much?

After installation, would a couple of tack welds hold it in place better, so you don't have to readjust every few months?

After installation, would a couple of tack welds hold it in place better, so you don't have to readjust every few months?
Thats a thought although they have been known to break, its rare but ive heard of it happening. Then you would have a heck of a time removing the rest of the broken spring (helper), but like i say its a thought i never thought of and im definately not a suspension person so someone chime in here.
Its weird too cause ive bent the plate from tightening so tight and that sucker still moves, i also tow a camper so maybe its the load im not sure but am concerned now that i think about it.

I mean just a couple 1/4" welds that could be ground off easily if needed. Something like two 1/4" tacks, one on each side, for a total of 4 per truck.

Just be careful welding to a spring. Welding can temper metal which can in turn weaken it.

DO NOT weld on a spring!!

LOL............Ill just stick to crawling underneath and checking ever so often.

I won't weld on anything except my exhaust systems, the heat is not good for the metal. Here is an alternitive option that I used, see pic below. You can also buy them at advance auto parts and they will run $10 or less.

Ah Ha! thanks Shailey, I like that. That will be done by the end of the month before the camping trip.

You are welcome float!

FWIW,

My helpers kept edging forward as well... no matter how much I cranked down on them. So I took them off (this was a few months ago) and bought a set of the Helwig springs (the red powdercoated ones).

The Helwigs didnt seem to be as efficient as the JT helpers. Go figure.. heplers $22 - Helwigs $69. lol.

So I took the Helwigs off and put the JT Helpers back on. Except this time I put the rivet in the highest weight setting spot and used the hardware from the Helwig kit (u-bolts, metal plates and nuts).

The hardware from the Helwig kit is much much sturdier material. The plate does not bend. So far, after a couple months the springs have not budged from their original position. However, if they do slide forward again I will do exactly what Shailey posted above (great idea!) and wont have to worry about it again.

Just my experience and .02c. :)

and added the secondary u-bolt assy. will see how it works out.

Just remember, at first these things will still migrate forward even with the secondary kit on. So after running a day, go back and tighten them some more.

Has anyone noticed any snapping noises from the helper bars loosening? Just yesterday i heard a loud snap. I reversed down a friends driveway (its long, and i just got my intake on, so i pushed it a bit), got to the street, stopped, put her in drive, went foward while turning the wheel. While accelerating a heard a SNAP. This happened 2 more times last night, and again once this morning, when driving gently. I have had the bars on for a few months, and havent tightened them once. I"m just hoping its the bars and not the diff making the snap noise! Going to either tighten them up again tonight, or take them off, and see if it still occurs.

Don't worry it is the bars. You just need to get them a little tighter. Usually after driving around for a while, you can tighten them up a couple of more turns.

I won't weld on anything except my exhaust systems, the heat is not good for the metal. Here is an alternitive option that I used, see pic below. You can also buy them at advance auto parts and they will run $10 or less.

Did exactly as Shailey said and have not had any issues since. It been 2-3 months now. Best mod for the buck.

Thanks for chiming in Shailey..... my heart dropped when i heard it the first time yesterday evening, then again the 3 other times, but it was only during turns, which meant weight shift, which meant suspension to me.... so, we'll see how tonight works out, if I'm every able to leave work
hahah

I won't weld on anything except my exhaust systems, the heat is not good for the metal. Here is an alternitive option that I used, see pic below. You can also buy them at advance auto parts and they will run $10 or less.
Well this afternoon was that mod, curses! Cant find them. Advance doesnt have them nor does pepboys.
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I think i got mine from AutoZone.... check their site if they have a local location by you.

Yep, try autozone.

Just Bought mine from JCwhitney, theres no autozone close to me so with shipping it was around $40. I hope it is worth it.

So just took off my bars, to see if they were causing the snapping noise... NOPE

although the noise is still there, its much quieter. Will have to check out all suspension joints to see if I can find a loose point. It only happens while on turns. I have not had time to see if it goes back and forth, like if i make a few right turns, if it only appears on the first turn, and then if i make a left turn if it appears. Or if i turn Right then Left then RIght etc, will it appear everytime.

Kinda worrying me about driving the truck this weekend, especially since I was planning a few long trips. I could always goto the dealer in the morning, but thats a pain, and no loaner for me!!!

I've just read through all 24 pages of this thread and I'd like to do this mod, but there seems to be some contradictory information:

- some people have said that it lowers the back end a little and some have said it raises it a little

I have a 4X4 with a 2" PRG leveling kit. Right now the back end is about 1/4" higher than the front and I don't want the back end to be lower than the front.

Has anyone done this mod with the PRG kit and does the back end sit lower?

it will lower it for sure, depending on how tight you put them on

When I had them as tight as I could, it dropped the back about 1/2", but i didnt measure, do it could have been slightly more or less.

Shailey,

What is this actual part called? I think I'm gonna needs these. Thanks.


I won't weld on anything except my exhaust systems, the heat is not good for the metal. Here is an alternitive option that I used, see pic below. You can also buy them at advance auto parts and they will run $10 or less.

I think that it was just called a u-bolt clmap kit. It was on display right below the leaf spring helpers in autozone here. They are in plastic packaging and you can see them through the plastic. If they have them, you can't miss them.

Just added the helpers and took the truck out for a little ride..All I can say is WOW! This is the best mod for buck. I don't know if it was all in my head, but I did notice a smoother ride. The bed didn't bounce as much and it definitely helped in accelearation. I punched it on a side street when all was clear and it felt like the front end wanted to lift up. The back end grabbed much better. I recommend to everyone to put these on. Install took about a half hour. I even bought an extra set of U bolts to keep them from sliding forward..Total cost of mod...35 bucks.! Thanks Jet Tech for the awesome recommendation!

Just check the extra u-bolts over the next couple of days, they tend to migrate as well as the others. After about a hundred miles or several full throttle starts whichever comes first, they should be loosened up a little.

can you still use these if you lower the truck? would there be a clearance problem ? thanks guys this sounds like a great investement for 20 bucks

can you still use these if you lower the truck? would there be a clearance problem ? thanks guys this sounds like a great investement for 20 bucks

I don't see why not. Clearance shouldn't be an issue as they don't come down lower than the differential pumpkin.

I don't see why not. Clearance shouldn't be an issue as they don't come down lower than the differential pumpkin.


NICE!!! well im on my way to the parts store....

You're gonna love em! Have fun!

NICE!!! well im on my way to the parts store....

I see all the good comments. I have an '06 SE CC w/ B-T. It's a stiff ride. What's the final verdict: will it ride easier or harsher with the Helpers on?

I do not think that it is a more harsh ride at all. I actually think that it is less bouncy on rough roads/interstates which we have a lot of around here. It takes speed bumps better also.

I forgot what the old ride feels like, I was bored to I took them off went for a 2 minute ride and put them right back on, now I remember.

whats the helper springs do for the truck? Does it make it ride better or what? I havent done any mods to my truck yet and I am looking to start doing some!! Great site....good info...

Pretty much reduces axle wrap and changes the ride of the truck. Also lets you load the bed with weight alittle more.

For those of you in California, etc. - Helper Springs are available at Kragen Auto, Part #18921.

I installed it this evening and took a quick test drive; what a difference. For the better. It is a more stiff ride but it holds so much better.

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Believe the hype -- got them on last night and drove it today. No rear swaying and the rear was solid and good to go off the light. I am thoroughly pleased with the product, excited about the possibilities, and thankful to Jet tech for passing on the info.

Greg

That'll be my first upgrade, thanx man