: HOW TO----high power burnout mod
misery-tom 10-20-2005, 01:02 PM MOD, PLEASE MOVE TO DIY AREA, i tried but it says only mods can post a new thread there, thanks
ok, here we go lol
disconnect and remove battery.
remove battery tray (4 bolts)
pull out bottom ECM plug
cut open harness and find red wire with white stripe.
mount any type on on/off switch in cab (where ever you want the switch)
run wires from switch through firewall and into engine bay(near fuse box)
cut the red/wht wire, and connect the ECM end of the red/wht wire to the acc. side of the switch and the other end of the red/wht wire to the supply side of the switch, tape 'em up and re-assemble everything in the reverse order, your done.
for normal driving operation --- switch in "on" position
for burnout mode --- switch in "off" position
happy tire killin
misery-tom 10-20-2005, 02:50 PM thanks, nevermind my PM lol
LDOTITAN 10-20-2005, 02:55 PM Do you just sit around all day and think of ways to do stuff to the Titan?? What makes you even think of doing stuff like this??? :D :D
misery-tom 10-20-2005, 03:52 PM lol , the idea started whit mossy_chis's post in the perf mods section about the burnouts, then slurpie and i talked about it and went through the ESM for a little more than an hour, tracking down the switch and the ecm's control lol, it was kinda fun actually lol
misery-tom 10-20-2005, 03:54 PM when it comes to wires, im in there baby lol
LDOTITAN 10-20-2005, 04:22 PM I tend to avoid wires. I prefer to work with a medium I can actually see, like gears and fluids. Electricity and I are not good friends.
misery-tom 10-20-2005, 04:29 PM its ok LDO, i know many people like that.
firecracker 10-20-2005, 05:25 PM UUHHMMMM,
Might have to do this............
misery-tom 10-20-2005, 05:48 PM hey firecracker, can u please edit that post with a spell check fer me, it wont let me edit it lol
mount any type on on/off swtich, should be:
mount any type of on/off switch.
and
verything in the revese order, should be:
everything in the reverse order
thanks
RockyMtnTitan 10-20-2005, 07:41 PM I love these easy mods. I think I'll just cut the R/W wire at the ecm and not bother with a switch. More stealthier this way, as far as dealer is concerned, and cost = $0...can't beat that with a stick!
My tires are almost shot anyway, so what the hek....light 'em up! :flamer:
Thanks, Mossy Chris, Misery, and Slurp.
atwrk 10-20-2005, 11:09 PM :?: So what does this mod do? Sounds like a great idea but I would like to know the details as how does it effect the performance of the truck. Thanks much!!!!!
misery-tom 10-21-2005, 10:43 AM when trying to do a powerbrake/brakestand burnout, your ecm sense's that your on the brake pedal and limits your TB, only letting it open about 10%, this mod will basically blind your ecm from seeing that your on the brake, therefor, your TB wont be limited.
NKTITAN711 10-21-2005, 03:20 PM You're the f***ing man Tom! Thanks for finding this out and posting it. I know it wasn't originally yours, but you took it and made it BETTER! Do you have pictures of your switch???
QShip 10-21-2005, 05:24 PM Man!! You guys are incredible!!
misery-tom 10-21-2005, 05:31 PM You're the f***ing man Tom! Thanks for finding this out and posting it. I know it wasn't originally yours, but you took it and made it BETTER! Do you have pictures of your switch???
no pics, its just a normal on/off switch mounted on the side of the console, kinda inside that little cubby area
RockyMtnTitan 10-21-2005, 05:55 PM Gumby brought up a point in the other thread about cruise control. I think the ASCD (auto spd control device) brake switch (upper of the two) is used for cruise control cancellation...but someone should check to make sure CC still cancels when you hit the brakes.
Tom, could you check this out...I haven't cut the wire yet, or else I would.
Thanks!
firecracker 10-21-2005, 06:16 PM Gumby brought up a point in the other thread about cruise control. I think the ASCD (auto spd control device) brake switch (upper of the two) is used for cruise control cancellation...but someone should check to make sure CC still cancels when you hit the brakes.
Tom, could you check this out...I haven't cut the wire yet, or else I would.
Thanks!
GOOD point RMT!!! Let us know Tom
misery-tom 10-21-2005, 08:08 PM well, i just read those posts now, so havent gotten a chance to try it, but in theory, that switch should have nothing to do with this mod, but, because only proving it will make u belive it, ill test er out tommorrow
firecracker 10-21-2005, 09:52 PM Thanks, Tom....somehow I figured you'd be up to the challenge! LOL
Oh yeah, ...... BE CAREFUL!!! LOL
misery-tom 10-21-2005, 10:20 PM carefull is no fun sir lol
vuaccordla 10-21-2005, 10:56 PM Has anyone confirm if this mode work on abls trucks?
misery-tom 10-21-2005, 11:18 PM yes it will, i belive shifty got er done
NKTITAN711 10-22-2005, 12:59 PM "got er done" hahahahahahahahahaha
misery-tom 10-22-2005, 03:57 PM ok guys, the cruise control shuts off with the brake pedal as normal, just like i thought before, but now its road tested, ARE YA HAPPY NOW YA DIS-BELIVING ******* LOL
RockyMtnTitan 10-23-2005, 12:10 PM ok guys, the cruise control shuts off with the brake pedal as normal, just like i thought before, but now its road tested, ARE YA HAPPY NOW YA DIS-BELIVING ******* LOL
Thanks for checking, Tom. The SM states that both brake switches are used in cruise control...but doesn't exactly come right out and state which one does the cancelling...so it needed to be checked....didn't want there to be a safety issue...know what I mean?! :wink:
misery-tom 10-23-2005, 12:52 PM i get ya lol, i didnt think id would have an effect being they put a seperate switch on there just fer the CC lol
italyguy01 10-23-2005, 05:52 PM ID just like to remind everyone that you are disabling a crucial part of the safety mechanism of your truck.
When you have "fly by wire" throttle, the ECM needs this signal to keep you from WOT right into other cars or a wall in case there is a malfunction of some sort.
Go ahead and disable this. Id hate to take that chance.
I am a big fan of burnouts, but I keep the risk level down.
just my two cents.
misery-tom 10-23-2005, 06:00 PM this is why i did it with a switch so you can only have the wire disabled when u do a burnout, then turn it back on, this is also what i recommend
NKTITAN711 10-23-2005, 10:08 PM WERD! :punch:
RockyMtnTitan 10-23-2005, 11:52 PM ID just like to remind everyone that you are disabling a crucial part of the safety mechanism of your truck.
When you have "fly by wire" throttle, the ECM needs this signal to keep you from WOT right into other cars or a wall in case there is a malfunction of some sort.
Go ahead and disable this. Id hate to take that chance.
I am a big fan of burnouts, but I keep the risk level down.
just my two cents.
Good point...when I get around to doing this, I'll put in a switch instead of just cutting the wire. Never know if you might get a little "ghost in the machine" with the drive-by-wire set up. :nervous:
Tom...with the switch off (open) are you still able to move the tranny shifter out of Park, or do you have to have the switch closed first? Just wondering since when you pull the brake pedal plug, you have to have the tranny out of Park first due to the interlock. Thanks!
RockyMtnTitan 10-24-2005, 05:57 PM ID just like to remind everyone that you are disabling a crucial part of the safety mechanism of your truck.
When you have "fly by wire" throttle, the ECM needs this signal to keep you from WOT right into other cars or a wall in case there is a malfunction of some sort.
Go ahead and disable this. Id hate to take that chance.
I am a big fan of burnouts, but I keep the risk level down.
just my two cents.
Good point...when I get around to doing this, I'll put in a switch instead of just cutting the wire. Never know if you might get a little "ghost in the machine" with the drive-by-wire set up. :nervous:
Tom...with the switch off (open) are you still able to move the tranny shifter out of Park, or do you have to have the switch closed first? Just wondering since when you pull the brake pedal plug, you have to have the tranny out of Park first due to the interlock. Thanks!
RockyMtnTitan 10-24-2005, 05:58 PM ID just like to remind everyone that you are disabling a crucial part of the safety mechanism of your truck.
When you have "fly by wire" throttle, the ECM needs this signal to keep you from WOT right into other cars or a wall in case there is a malfunction of some sort.
Go ahead and disable this. Id hate to take that chance.
I am a big fan of burnouts, but I keep the risk level down.
just my two cents.
Good point...when I get around to doing this, I'll put in a switch instead of just cutting the wire. Never know if you might get a little "ghost in the machine" with the drive-by-wire set up. :nervous:
Tom...with the switch off (open) are you still able to move the tranny shifter out of Park, or do you have to have the switch closed first? Just wondering since when you pull the brake pedal plug, you have to have the tranny out of Park first due to the interlock. Thanks!
Bumpity bump bump... :lol:
Shiftyb 10-24-2005, 06:13 PM I got this one Misery.
With a switch installed, you can have it on or off and still be able to use yer shifter as normal.
The only time you have to put it in nuetral is when your just unplugging it because there is two wires on that plug (some have four) and one controls the nuetral safety park thingy dill. The other goes to the ECU (switch).
RockyMtnTitan 10-24-2005, 06:18 PM I got this one Misery.
With a switch installed, you can have it on or off and still be able to use yer shifter as normal.
The only time you have to put it in nuetral is when your just unplugging it because there is two wires on that plug (some have four) and one controls the nuetral safety park thingy dill. The other goes to the ECU (switch).
Thanks, shiftyb....that's what I thought, but needed to know for sure.
Also, I found the reason some of us have 4 wires vs 2 on the lower brake pedal plug. Column shifters, which should only be XE's, have 4 wires, and floor shifters have 2 wires.
Thanks Rocky! I was wondering why my loaner was different.
misery-tom 10-25-2005, 09:34 AM shifty got it right on the boys, sorry ive been out fer a day, werk has been hell
CJ3FLYR 11-01-2005, 10:55 PM Very cool mod ! I’m going to give it a try but for a different reason than burnouts. I have 4 wheel ALBS on mine which seems to be ok if your moving at a clip (above 5-6mph). It leaves a lot to be desired when trying to get things rolling :crying: . My old Trooper has pulled itself from a slippery, dead stop, with a medium amount of brake pedal and a healthy dose of throttle many times. The power application and the ABS seem to work as a pseudo ALBS but from a much lower speed. I’ve tried this in the Titan but it doesn’t seem too interested in co-operating and if you can’t get it moving the real ALBS can’t work. The Titan is very hard to modulate the power with the brake and gas simultaniously... I hope this makes it more like my Trooper... :amazing:
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Jserman 11-10-2005, 01:33 AM thanks for the DYI.. that is awesome
Looks like I have a little project to do.
eternaltitan 02-11-2006, 02:58 PM i was with my friend trying to do a burnout when i gt my titan brand new, it didnt work becuase i guess of tht stupid wire. so basiclly by having tht wire connectd or disconnectd the throttle will now actually open up instead of being partially opened...so now us titan's can finally make some smoke!!!!
Darkwolf 06-07-2006, 05:27 PM Jus gotta say... "you guys kick ***!!" The things you come up with.
beats the hell out of my "let's replace the dome light with somethin in a dark green" idea.
baseballfanz 06-07-2006, 05:51 PM Jus gotta say... "you guys kick ***!!" The things you come up with.
beats the hell out of my "let's replace the dome light with somethin in a dark green" idea.
I think there's a thread about changing the light to dark green somewhere.:D
Jus gotta say... "you guys kick ***!!" The things you come up with.
beats the hell out of my "let's replace the dome light with somethin in a dark green" idea. That was soooo funny!!!! I cant stop laughing!!!
RIDER 07-19-2006, 05:12 PM why was misery tom banned?
corey-glowinstrat-strail 07-19-2006, 06:16 PM it sounds like i need to do this before NOPI
scr38 07-19-2006, 07:54 PM why was misery tom banned?
For not following the forum rules.
Bodean 08-10-2006, 01:09 PM so I show this to a friend and he goes to do it, keep in mind I consider him to be qualified for this type of mod, and he says now his truck won't come out of park without using the bypass. Any Ideas???
Shiftyb 08-10-2006, 06:41 PM so I show this to a friend and he goes to do it, keep in mind I consider him to be qualified for this type of mod, and he says now his truck won't come out of park without using the bypass. Any Ideas???
Did he just disconnect the plug or cut the wires?
If he just undidn the plug, it wont come out of park because there is another wire on the plug that is the park lock wire.
So, if youre just going to unplug the wire, do it while its in drive. Set the emergency brake and put it in drive. unplug it and to the burnout.
If he cut the wire and it wont come out of park, he cut the wrong one.
Bodean 08-10-2006, 07:00 PM First words out of my mouth were "check your fuses"? And he said they were all fine. NOT. The stoplights and the park lock switch are on the same fuse so when you lose your brakelights it won't come out of park. A trip to see the dealer (me) and he was DFR.
RIGHT PHILL?????lol
TitanBlue 08-16-2006, 12:11 AM Ignorance asking here,,,how does this type of mod affect Dyno or street performance, e.g. 1/4 mile ET?
GalaxyTitan22 08-17-2006, 05:18 PM Does this mod effect the ABLS (braking traction system)?
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