I have always changed oil and rotated tires at the 3000 mile interval. I am approaching 2000 miles on my Titan, and am wondering if I should change early on the first oil vhange. I will be going to the M1 0/40 oil, and will continue to change at 3000 miles. I know you can stretch out the intervals with synthetic, but with having 3 vehicles, I am more concerned about length of time then I am miles.
Comments?????

I have heard arguments on this subject for a long time. With todays engines and the synthetic oils it seems to me that vehicles should be able to go at least 5000 miles between changes. I personally would not go this long but if you ask me I believe its all numbers games with the oil companies and the Jiffy Lubes. But hey its just my opinion.
M4ck

I have always changed oil and rotated tires at the 3000 mile interval. I am approaching 2000 miles on my Titan, and am wondering if I should change early on the first oil vhange. I will be going to the M1 0/40 oil, and will continue to change at 3000 miles. I know you can stretch out the intervals with synthetic, but with having 3 vehicles, I am more concerned about length of time then I am miles.
Comments?????

If you haven't dumped out the factory fill oil yet please do so at your earliest conveinance. The factory fill oil has a bunch of crap in it of which showed up in the oil sample I did on it from my truck at 1K miles.

You can use the M1 0W-40 from here on out if you want and can safely go with a 7500 mile change. The sample I had done at 5k miles was perfect and the TBN was still very high so it had lots of life left in it.

Two thumbs up for Mobil 1 0W-40!!

I just don't think I can make myself leave it in there for 7,500 miles! I will try to accept 5000, but don't even know if I can do that! Should I go ahead and change differential oil out now also? (M1 70/90)

5k Miles is an easy number to remember so I don't blame you. And yes, definitely change the differential out as soon as you can as well. M1 75W-90 is an acceptable substitute and is 100% synthetic. I have directions on changing it out on my pic site at www.pixagogo.com/jetmechanic just look for the pic of the differential and there are instructions on it...

Let me know if you need any more info..

Dale

awesome site! Great Job!

There's also a pic there on how to check your ATF too, that wouldn't be a bad idea to do as well.

I used to always change my oil at 3,000 miles in everything I own. That was until last year when I bought my wife a VW Beetle Diesel. In accordance with the manual, you must use synthetic. I use M1 Delvac. The cool thing is I go 10K miles between oil changes. The guys on the VW forum have all the oil analyses to prove this is acceptable. It is hard to get used to, but it is doable. JetTech has proven, I think, 7500 miles with no problem. Right now I have 2500 miles on my Titan. i had the oil changed for the first time at 1200 miles. I plan to change again around 3500 and am contemplating going the 0W-40 route as suggested by JetTech. If I don't go to synthetic at that time, I will the next.

Hey John, factually the only thing I've proven is 5500 miles on the M1 0W-40 because that's when I had the oil sample done. Blackstone Labs reported the TBN to still be quite high so I know it had lots of additives still left and was good for many more miles. I may or may not go to the 7500 mile mark mainly because 5K miles is sooooooo easy to remember. MikeZ is running Amsoil 10W-30 right now and is going to do a sample when he gets to 5K miles for comparison purposes.

I did see a report from a member on Titan Talk that had 4500 miles and was using Chevron Supreme, his report was excellent too. I've got a gut feeling that no matter what oil you put in these engines it's going to do fine because Nissan has done an excellent job with them. I just prefer to use synthetics because my truck sees redline everyday numerous times, I just want the added safety margin. If I drove it like a sane human being than it would be hard to justify the added cost of synthetics.

Hey JT, save me from looking it up, whats the fill amount for the differentials?

JetTech, sorry, I was not trying to put words in your mouth. I guess I see such great benefits from using synthetic especially the convienence of extended drain intervals. After reading the VW forums and comments at bobishteoilguy.com, I realized I was changing my oil too often.

I know what you mean in saying that 5K miles is easier to remember than 7500. But, hey, 10K is also pretty easy.... :D

If you haven't dumped out the factory fill oil yet please do so at your earliest conveinance. The factory fill oil has a bunch of crap in it of which showed up in the oil sample I did on it from my truck at 1K miles.

You can use the M1 0W-40 from here on out if you want and can safely go with a 7500 mile change. The sample I had done at 5k miles was perfect and the TBN was still very high so it had lots of life left in it.

Two thumbs up for Mobil 1 0W-40!!

I am at 5500 miles and had the 1st oil change at the dealership when Nissan recommended at around 3500. Should I have done it sooner???? Should I go ahead and change again now with the syn.? I want this truck to last 500,000 miles, so I want to do what is best. I didn't even take it over 4,000 rpm's for the 1st 1,200 miles!

What should I do? Please help!!!!

Hey JT, save me from looking it up, whats the fill amount for the differentials?

68ozs Bill. You'll need to buy 3 quarts because 2 won't quite do it..

JetTech, sorry, I was not trying to put words in your mouth. I guess I see such great benefits from using synthetic especially the convienence of extended drain intervals. After reading the VW forums and comments at bobishteoilguy.com, I realized I was changing my oil too often.

I know what you mean in saying that 5K miles is easier to remember than 7500. But, hey, 10K is also pretty easy.... :D

Hey John, don't worry about putting words in my mouth, I just wanted to make sure everyone understood factually what I had done, and then from the sample results can see that 7500 wouldn't be a problem. No apologies necessary and by the way, VW makes an awesome TDI engine, great choice!!

I am at 5500 miles and had the 1st oil change at the dealership when Nissan recommended at around 3500. Should I have done it sooner???? Should I go ahead and change again now with the syn.? I want this truck to last 500,000 miles, so I want to do what is best. I didn't even take it over 4,000 rpm's for the 1st 1,200 miles!

What should I do? Please help!!!!

Hi k9!! Let's see, you have about 2K miles on the oil now and went 3500 to begin with. It wouldn't be a bad idea to dump the oil when you get a chance and run some Chevron Supreme or Texaco Havoline for another 2K miles and then go for the synthetics. I'm only recommending this so you can flush the system out before you start going 5K miles or more on a synthetic.

Personally I wouldn't sweat the 3500 miles on the factory fill oil. What's done is done and I'm sure everything will be fine. Heck a lot of people wait until 7500 for their first change!! 8O

Please make sure to check your differential fluid levels (front and rear if you have a 4x4) because the factory has a BAD habit of sending them out low, of which WILL cause you problems later on.

Hey JT, save me from looking it up, whats the fill amount for the differentials?

68ozs Bill. You'll need to buy 3 quarts because 2 won't quite do it..

Is that per differential, or for both?

It wouldn't be a bad idea to dump the oil when you get a chance and run some Chevron Supreme or Texaco Havoline for another 2K miles and then go for the synthetics.

Please make sure to check your differential fluid levels (front and rear if you have a 4x4) because the factory has a BAD habit of sending them out low, of which WILL cause you problems later on.

Thanks for the info. I feel better about the oil now. I will change it asap and run for 2,000 miles before going to the syn!!!

Thanks for the heads up on the diff fluid. I see you have info posted about changing that, so I will get on that also. Looks easy enough. :)

Thanks again!!!!!

Hey JT, save me from looking it up, whats the fill amount for the differentials?

68ozs Bill. You'll need to buy 3 quarts because 2 won't quite do it..

Is that per differential, or for both?

That's just for the rear diff Bill, the manual states (this is weird) 3 3/8 pints for the front diff. It appears this is going to be about 54ozs. If you buy 4 quarts of the Mobil 1 75W-90 you should have enough for the front and rear diffs.

It wouldn't be a bad idea to dump the oil when you get a chance and run some Chevron Supreme or Texaco Havoline for another 2K miles and then go for the synthetics.

Please make sure to check your differential fluid levels (front and rear if you have a 4x4) because the factory has a BAD habit of sending them out low, of which WILL cause you problems later on.

Thanks for the info. I feel better about the oil now. I will change it asap and run for 2,000 miles before going to the syn!!!

Thanks for the heads up on the diff fluid. I see you have info posted about changing that, so I will get on that also. Looks easy enough. :)

Thanks again!!!!!

Changing/checking the diff fluid is a piece of cake k9. All you need is a 3/8 drive ratchet and, if you have one, a small 3" extension too. Don't worry if you don't have the extension because you can still do it with just a ratchet.

This pic might help you out a bit, if it's not of a high enough resolution or your having a hard time seeing it just go to my pics site and you'll see it there.

http://us1.pixagogo.com/Tools/Thumbnails.aspx?thumb=S5rqJsYUV0hAZ5!O81rkafS8JaWU kOLYru8JIQ0pqMwuEc2oQ2m7wJXxOZ71sveQOkyv8O4j00phDZ RMZMcNnHMXFCSWZIYas41w2vk8BogdmUH6FTmT9ow8AjB2n2eC RhDIA7iNvjar0_

Thanks JT, that is exactly what I all ready bought!

Hi k9!! Let's see, you have about 2K miles on the oil now and went 3500 to begin with. It wouldn't be a bad idea to dump the oil when you get a chance and run some Chevron Supreme or Texaco Havoline for another 2K miles and then go for the synthetics. I'm only recommending this so you can flush the system out before you start going 5K miles or more on a synthetic.

Personally I wouldn't sweat the 3500 miles on the factory fill oil. What's done is done and I'm sure everything will be fine. Heck a lot of people wait until 7500 for their first change!! 8O

Please make sure to check your differential fluid levels (front and rear if you have a 4x4) because the factory has a BAD habit of sending them out low, of which WILL cause you problems later on.

5,491 miles and I changed oil today for 1st time myself. Dealer did 1st change at 3,500. I used Purolator oil filter and Mobil 10W 30 oil. Will change again in 2,000 miles and will use Mobil 1 syn then. Should have my oil test kit by then.

I also changed rear and front differential oil. Used the Mobil 1 75 90. It took 2 qt's per differential. The rear was a breeze, but front I had to remove a skid plate (I have off road package, but don't know if the plate I removed is part of that package or not) in order to get to the fill hole. Still, once I located everything it was no big deal.

Next time I will take pictures!

Please make sure to check your differential fluid levels (front and rear if you have a 4x4) because the factory has a BAD habit of sending them out low, of which WILL cause you problems later on.

Good call on the low differential levels. Both were low.

good for you k9.......excellent choice.

Hee hee! I changed oil the first time at 500 miles! My differential oil was bad (black & bad Stinky!)Dealer changed it and checked the diff bearings. I told dealer I wanted to go synthetic on the diff oil. They checked into it and advised not to put anything but Nissan oil into them. (Warranty)

I would guess they are just saying that because they have to. But they refilled with Nissan Oil.

Haven't done the oil change yet (2000 miles). Both my diffs were low. I used a mity-vac to pump the oil into the front rather than remove the skidplate. Slow process (mity-vac cup is 4oz) but it worked good. I was impressed how much room there was to work under the Titan. My last truck was an F-250 and it was lower to the ground on some of the important stuff like the oil pan and tranny pan. 8)

I'm getting set to do my own oil change in a few days. Plenty of posts here about the oil, but what about the oil filter? What did you guys use? Nissan oil filter? If you can, post the oil filter part number because many autopart stores have trouble looking up anything for the Titan.

I use the Nissan filter as it has an anti drain flap, that keeps the filter full of oil.

I always use Napa Gold(wix) filters. The number is a 1356, or a 51356 for a wix anywhere but Napa. I did my first oil change at about 500 miles, switched to synthentic on my 3rd oil change at about 5k. Now I plan on changing the oil about every 6k, but I will still change the filter and top off the oil every 3k. I might go longer on the oil changing, but I think I'll try to stick to 6k.

I love that Dana finally put a drain plug in the bottom of the differential. I just wish they would have thought about that in 1976 for my IH Scout(and yes... it is the same axle)

I always use Napa Gold(wix) filters. The number is a 1356, or a 51356 for a wix anywhere but Napa. I did my first oil change at about 500 miles, switched to synthentic on my 3rd oil change at about 5k. Now I plan on changing the oil about every 6k, but I will still change the filter and top off the oil every 3k. I might go longer on the oil changing, but I think I'll try to stick to 6k.

I love that Dana finally put a drain plug in the bottom of the differential. I just wish they would have thought about that in 1976 for my IH Scout(and yes... it is the same axle)

Hey Nate, I don't suppose I could talk you into doing an oil sample could I??? I know the guys on bobistheoilguy site swear by the NAPA gold filters. I'm interested to see how it does in an oil sample with the endurance engine....PLEASE!!!

I was reading an article on Lucas Oils and it said you could go over 20,000 miles between oil changes. Anyone ever tried this? lol
m4ck

I was reading an article on Lucas Oils and it said you could go over 20,000 miles between oil changes. Anyone ever tried this? lol
m4ck

Go here m4ck. www.bobistheoilguy.com and read about LUCAS oil. I bet you'll never use it or any of their additives after you do some reading.

Basically their additives cause a lot of foaming, NOT GOOD!!!

Ahh sorry I stated the wrong oil. Here is a article similar to the one Im talking about its AMSoil not lucas.
http://www.amsoil.com/lit/lng_article/

heres another article
http://www.1st-in-synthetics.com/409,000_miles.htm
Its a big rig but still
M4ck

Heh, I'll call the guys at my AOAP lab and see if they do a sample for me, ok, probably not. I'll look into it if you can suggest a few places that can do it for me.

One more here
http://www.authorized-amsoil-dealer-for-synthetic-motor-oil.com/amsoil_articles/amsoil-problems/
M4ck

Heh, I'll call the guys at my AOAP lab and see if they do a sample for me, ok, probably not. I'll look into it if you can suggest a few places that can do it for me.

go to blackstones labs site and order a kit from them..

Ahh sorry I stated the wrong oil. Here is a article similar to the one Im talking about its AMSoil not lucas.
http://www.amsoil.com/lit/lng_article/

heres another article
http://www.1st-in-synthetics.com/409,000_miles.htm
Its a big rig but still
M4ck

I used to be an Amsoil dealer but got tired of selling it at cost...

Anyhow it seems to be a good oil but I would never consider running it more than 5k miles without doing oil samples or using a remote filter setup. There's tons of reading on bobistheoilguy site concerning Amsoil as well. I think the vast majority believe it to not be worth the money and stick with Mobil 1

Dont get me started on blackstone they still havent sent me my oil test I ordered like 6 weeks ago.
M4ck

Dont get me started on blackstone they still havent sent me my oil test I ordered like 6 weeks ago.
M4ck

Maybe they knew you owned a Titan and the sample would come back great even if you dumped kool-aid in the crankcase... :lol:

Dont get me started on blackstone they still havent sent me my oil test I ordered like 6 weeks ago.
M4ck

Maybe they knew you owned a Titan and the sample would come back great even if you dumped kool-aid in the crankcase... :lol:
LOL I still want my test kit.
M4ck

Dont get me started on blackstone they still havent sent me my oil test I ordered like 6 weeks ago.
M4ck

Maybe they knew you owned a Titan and the sample would come back great even if you dumped kool-aid in the crankcase... :lol:
LOL I still want my test kit.
M4ck

Wish I had known that, I've got 4 new kits at my house... :(

Its only 3 hours to Atlanta man hurry
HEHE
m4ck

sounds like I'm going to have to send you one and then send blackstone a nasty gram about the business they are losing out on....

Yeh and they could really get some good business from the guys here.
M4ck

ok, well that settles it. I'll e-mail them and see what I can come up with.

I just ordered my kit from blackstone, hopefully it won't take too long to get here. I think I will go ahead and bring some sample bottles home from work and take a sample now. I want to to some comparisons between Royal Purple and Mobil one, personally I prefer Royal Purple, but if I can get all the benefits of it in Mobil One, and be able to pick it up just about anywhere instead of ordering it I'll use it.

I just ordered my kit from blackstone, hopefully it won't take too long to get here. I think I will go ahead and bring some sample bottles home from work and take a sample now. I want to to some comparisons between Royal Purple and Mobil one, personally I prefer Royal Purple, but if I can get all the benefits of it in Mobil One, and be able to pick it up just about anywhere instead of ordering it I'll use it.

That would be an interesting comparison Nate. From what I've read on other oil sites RP doesn't typically do as well as redline and Mobil 1 so that would be an excellent comparison.

It seems everyone here is a Mobil 1 devotee. I've run Castrol Syntec (5W-30) in my vehicles religously for about the last 8 years or so (in various makes and models), have done the 7000-7500 mile interval, and have never had any problems whatsoever. I haven't changed the oil in my Titan yet (only 1600 miles), but when I do I'll put my old favorite in it. I've never had an analysis done, but I used the Syntec in my old '93 Lumina EuroSport (3.1 V-6) that I bought in 1993 with 14k miles on it. I traded it in Oct 2002 for an '03 S-10, and the Lumina had 150k miles on it then. Never leaked, never burned oil, never had any problems. Used plain Castrol 5W-30 in it for the first couple of years, and then went synthetic.
On another note, please be careful when changing out the differential fluid. Measure out the correct amount for the refill; the old adage of filling the pumpkin up to the bottom of the drain plug hole doesn't apply here. It's a tall pumpkin, and overfilling will cause pressure build up and may blow your axle seals. In case you didn't know....

I kind of need to add a little here oldsalt. The differentials should be filled until the oil comes out the fill hole as per the service manual. Nissan is bad about under filling them thus causing problems later on.

Also the syntec your buying is not a true synthetic but yet Castrol charges the same amount as the true synthetics. Not a good marketing plan in my opinion but I'm sure it makes them tons of money..

I hear you, JetTech. Not to argue (or to come off like a know-it-all), my dad is a retired mechanic and service manager. My pumpkin was low and I asked him about filling it to the fill hole. He said "No"; even though that was the rule of thumb back in the day, the newer vehicles don't always fit that mold. He said to find out the capacity recommendation and then fill it accordingly. Mine came to about an inch below the bottom of the fill hole. Of course, I have the 4x2 without the limited slip, so my requirement may be different than yours with the 4x4. I appreciate your input.

Tossing my two cents in here. I have the 4x2 with Big Tow and when I checked my diff level shortly after I bought my TItan the level was at the height of the bottom of the fill hole. A few weeks later I was shooting the breeze with the Nissan mechanic (not service rep) that had just completed the brake TSB on my Titan and when I told him I head some Titans have too little diff fluid at time of delivery he said the level should be up to the fill hole as mine was.

as they say, "a picture is worth a thousand words", well I don't think this one is but at least it shows what I was talking about. Oldsalt, the 68ozs. that the manual says will not bring your level up to the bottom of the fill plug, it typically takes about 76ozs before it starts to run out of the hole.

It will only be a matter of time before Nissan tells us to change the fluid to a 75W-140 synthetic anyhow. It's about the only way they are going to be able to thwart the heat issue for a while.

Okay, I know when I'm outgunned! Appreciate all of the feedback. I just trust my old man, cause he has taught me a lot and has remedied problems for me over the years. He's one of the old school techs that can diagnose a vehicle problem about as quick as a newfangled scanner can. I don't do any towing, so I'll live with what I have in the pumpkin. You fellas take care of your trucks as you see fit. No harm done, no offense taken. Hopefully, none given, either.

Trust me these guys are just trying to lay out the facts as they see them. These guys would never take offense to an opinion and they would never mean any either. Everyone is entitled to their own. I myself have no clue whatsoever when it comes to the mechanical side of these trucks. I rely on the people here to give me all the answers.

Well I work for nissan in decherd tn.I am currently leasing an 04 LE CC Titan and the sticker the plant put on my windshield for the first oil is suppose to be 7500 miles.Imagine that huh?

Thats an awful long time on regular oil. I would change out the regular oil at about 2500 to 3000 and switch to synthetic. Then maybe run it 7500 miles between changes. On my next change I'm going to synthetic Mobil 1 0 40. I will be sending my oil in to Blackstone to have it analyzed.

Okay, I know when I'm outgunned! Appreciate all of the feedback. I just trust my old man, cause he has taught me a lot and has remedied problems for me over the years. He's one of the old school techs that can diagnose a vehicle problem about as quick as a newfangled scanner can. I don't do any towing, so I'll live with what I have in the pumpkin. You fellas take care of your trucks as you see fit. No harm done, no offense taken. Hopefully, none given, either.I hear ya, my dad's a retired aircraft mechanic and he is a firm believer that if the engineers who designed the manuals would work on the planes after they've been in the air a few thousand hours, then they'd be writing things differently. Given that, it pays to listen to the mechanics too.

Okay, I know when I'm outgunned! Appreciate all of the feedback. I just trust my old man, cause he has taught me a lot and has remedied problems for me over the years. He's one of the old school techs that can diagnose a vehicle problem about as quick as a newfangled scanner can. I don't do any towing, so I'll live with what I have in the pumpkin. You fellas take care of your trucks as you see fit. No harm done, no offense taken. Hopefully, none given, either.

Oldsalt, please don't think your outgunned here and I think it's admirable that you trust your Dad and want to stick with his recommendations. I appreciate your opinions and hope that you continue to give them. After all, we're here to have fun and learn as much as we can.

Did my first oil change the other day at 2000 miles. I took JetTechs advice and went with the Mobil O W-40 synthetic. Good call on the differential fluid level as well, mine was a little low (not that bad). We'll see how this stuff works, but I'm not sure how long I want to wait for the next oil change. 7500 miles makes me squirm a litlle.

Did my first oil change the other day at 2000 miles. I took JetTechs advice and went with the Mobil O W-40 synthetic. Good call on the differential fluid level as well, mine was a little low (not that bad). We'll see how this stuff works, but I'm not sure how long I want to wait for the next oil change. 7500 miles makes me squirm a litlle.

A good, easy to remember schedule, for oil changes is every 5K miles. It would probably be a good idea to change your oil at the 5K mile mark and then you'll be on schedule to do it again at 10K miles and so forth. Just an idea...

Hello everyone, I'm new to this site, so excuse me if I bring up any topics you have already covered.

In regards to the oil, I was planning on changing over to synthetic, but was told by the dealer that I should wait until after I have 10K on the engine. Is that true, or can I start using the synthetics now? I just hit 2K last week. Thanks. :?:

Hello everyone, I'm new to this site, so excuse me if I bring up any topics you have already covered.

In regards to the oil, I was planning on changing over to synthetic, but was told by the dealer that I should wait until after I have 10K on the engine. Is that true, or can I start using the synthetics now? I just hit 2K last week. Thanks. :?:
Check out the start of this thread and also go to this other thread to read some R&T articles about this: http://www.clubtitan.org/postlite471-.html

Thanks, that article pretty much answers my question.

Hello everyone, I'm new to this site, so excuse me if I bring up any topics you have already covered.

In regards to the oil, I was planning on changing over to synthetic, but was told by the dealer that I should wait until after I have 10K on the engine. Is that true, or can I start using the synthetics now? I just hit 2K last week. Thanks. :?:

hi kyfho and welcome!!

You can switch over to synthetics anytime your ready and feel comfortable with it. Some people like to go with the advise of the dealers and wait, and some (like myself) like to switch after the purchase agreement is signed... :D Either way your fine to do whatever you want.

If you chose to wait there are some great non-synthetic oils on the market starting with Chevron Supreme and Texaco Havoline. Both rank as top oils in oil sample results, so whichever road you take you really can't go wrong..

Thanks!!!!

This is really an awesome site!!!! I have already picked up a ton of good advice. I read an article on one of the other threads about loose bolts. I checked my truck and sure enough, the EXACT same bolts were loose. Things that make you go hmmmm...

Howdy,
I'm really excited to find a great Titan web-site.

I bought my Titan 2weeks ago and have been reading that some of the first production models (as late as 07/04) had some quirks. Would any or all of these quirks apply to my truck with a production date of 09/04?

Either way guys.....the oil talk is great and I'm going to attempt my first diff. Wish me Luck!

Bull

...I bought my Titan 2weeks ago and have been reading that some of the first production models (as late as 07/04) had some quirks. Would any or all of these quirks apply to my truck with a production date of 09/04?...Nissan engineers from Japan came over in the middle of summer to narrow down the cause of some of the QC problems and fix them. So your build date should have been after the engineers arrived and started implementing changes along the assembly line. If you do experience any problems with the paint or loose dash bolts, let us know. I have an April build date and have no problems with loose bolts.

Anyone ever use the Havoline synthetic 5w/40? Just wondering how it stands up to the other synthetic brands?

is the oil capacity 6 or 6 1/2 quarts?

6 1/2 quarts with filter change.

Anyone ever use the Havoline synthetic 5w/40? Just wondering how it stands up to the other synthetic brands?

I used to use the Valvoline 5W-40 in my E320 Mercedes back when Valvoline first came out with it. I stopped using it when I found out it was nothing more then a group III oil, yet I was only saving about .50cents as compared to the Mobil 1 which is group IV. I can't say anything bad about it because I didn't do an oil sample on it, it's just that I don't like paying close to group IV prices for a group III oil. It's deceptive marketing in my opinion, started by the infamous Castrol Syntec!!

6 1/2 quarts with filter change.
There is a bit of discrepency with this though. 6 1/2 quarts with a filter change doesn't even touch my dipstick. Mine took 7 1/2 quarts to the full mark. Seems odd doesn't it? I even verified my dipstick with 3 other Titans on the lot back when this was a heated debate over on TT. Mine is the same as all the others.

interesting... I just changed my oil and it measures full with 6 1/2 quarts... Is it possible that they have models with larger pans?

interesting... I just changed my oil and it measures full with 6 1/2 quarts... Is it possible that they have models with larger pans?

I doubt there is a sump quantity difference, but there certainly seems to be a lot of people who say anywhere from 6 to 7.5 brings them to the full mark. With both Titans I've owned 7qts. brought it up perfectly to the full mark.

Just as an abstract thought this might have something to do with the pitch/downward slope of the different Titans???? Maybe??? Heck I really don't know, I'm just grasping here for ideas... :lol:

Nissan considers the engine full of oil when the level on the dipstick is anywhere in between the two lines. You will probably have to put in at least 7 quarts to get to the top mark. A note of caution - having too much oil in the engine is almost as bad as having too little..Too high of a oil level in the pan will allow the crank to contact the oil, causing foaming.

Nissan considers the engine full of oil when the level on the dipstick is anywhere in between the two lines. You will probably have to put in at least 7 quarts to get to the top mark. A note of caution - having too much oil in the engine is almost as bad as having too little..Too high of a oil level in the pan will allow the crank to contact the oil, causing foaming.

Excellent point, I'm glad you brought that up. Thanks...

i try 6.5 like the manual says but it never touchs dip stick either, 7 puts it right in the middle of the 2 lines. its probably more like 6.75 qts considering i dont stand there and let every last drop drain out of each qt. :D