I know many of you guys advised against buying the pacesetters for various reasons, but i went ahead and did it anyway. They were so cheap that if even if i dont like them, i wont feel like ive wasted much money. Von and other Titan owners and myself installed them yesterday. Fitment was ok. Driver side went on pretty easy, but the passenger side took a while. Since then, ive put on about 100 miles. The 3" collector was supposed to rob my torque but so far the low end still feels great. I even had the cutouts open today and i still did a huge smokey burnout from a dig without brakestanding atall. The top end is awesome now and i can feel power gains throughout all RPM's. I'll have to wait and see how they hold up to have a report about their quality. Thanks again to all that helped with the install.