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XE to SE Pwr/Heated Mirror Conversion-- Part 1

For anyone who can't stand being without power mirrors on your XE CC, like me, then this is for you! Oh, and the mirror defrost is a nice feature, as well! Note: These instructions will work for the XE KC, BUT, if you want to upgrade to pwr windows and/or door locks, the factory switches will not work. You need to have the BCM, which among other things, communicates with the pwr window/lock switch.....yes, the switch has it's own cpu! So you'd have to wire them direct with generic switches/wiring.

First off, the XE to SE mirror conversion not a "plug and play". Many have said that if you have the XE CC, then it is prewired for pwr mirrors since it already has the pwr windows/locks. This is not the case.....as I found out the hard way. So, this "how to" will give you fairly detailed instruction on how to install the mirrors, new front door harnesses, mirror switch (easy part!) as well as how to make the new harness needed to interface from ds mirror switch to the ps door harness and 12V power wiring.

The SE standard and Big Tow mirrors are the same, as far as wiring is concerned. Beware though, that the LE mirrors are different due to the memory function. They have different harness connectors because of this and will not work with the new SE door harnesses.

So, here's the Nissan parts you'll need. Order from any of the sponsors here, like Greg w/ Mossy. Price may vary, as I got my parts from various places like Titanparts247.com and nissanpartsdistributor.com

(1) Switch assy-mirror P/N#25570-5Z000 $42.16

(1) Finisher-Power (switch cover trim) P/N#80961-7S000 $1.82

(1) Harness Assy-door, Front RH P/N#24124-8S100 $34.53

(1) Harness Assy-door, Front LH P/N#24125-8S100 $38.18

Note: I found my SE mirrors (non-BT) on ebay for $155/pr plus shipping. Do a ebay search and you should be able to find them. He also had some BT mirrors for not much more.

The rest of the materials can be found at Radio Shack and Lowes.

I've attached pics of the mirror replacement as well as several pics of my custom harness and modification of the new SE door harnesses. I've also included a detailed wiring schematic and modified oem schematics from the service manual. My hand-drawn schematic isn't the prettiest, but it should give everyone a good idea of what's going on. Here's the basic steps, refer to photos for details:

1. Make your new harness. This is the longest part of the install. Refer to diagram "mirror new wiring schematic and parts" for materials/dimensions I used.

2. Modify new SE door harnesses to accept your newly made harness. Be sure to do this before installing it. You'll never reach the wiring under the dash to modify this plug later.

3. Remove XE mirrors and install new SE mirrors.

4. Remove the kick panels on ds and ps by removing the single plastic fastener at the top off each panel. Use fingernails or pocket screwdriver to lift center part of this clip out and then entire clip will pull out. Then separate the lower portion of the panel from it's attached rail piece.

5. Remove ds door panel. Pics show how to expose the hidden screws and remove panels. The cables for the door and lock actuators come off easily, so I removed them to give me more room. Peel back plastic sheet barrier far enough to gain access to wiring. The tar-like adhesive on this sheeting will reseal by applying some pressure.

6. Remove the ds door harness. First disconn the plug to the main harness under dash. Nissan uses several different style conn's, and they release differently. Most, though, have a side release that you push in with a small screwdriver and then pull apart.

Remove door jam harness protector and pull main harness conn thru jam and into door cavity. Start disconn all plugs from door components. You'll have to remove the power window/locks switch assembly from door panel to remove the plug to the switch. Remove speaker to access it's plug.

To remove the plug to the door actuator, I had to remove the actuator from the door partially, to unclip it's plug conn. This was kind of a pain. You'll need a #30 Torx bit to remove the 3 screws opposite the actuator.

7. Pass-side panel is the same procedure.

8. Install your new modified SE ds door harness. Each plug is unique, so no worries as to which goes where. There is an extra 2-wire plug that is for the Puddle Lamps, which we don't have. If you want to install these later, you'll have to wire them, as the main dash harness does not support this feature on the XE. Not a big deal to me.

9. Install the pwr window/lock and new mirror switch into the new finisher trim plate you bought. Plug in conn's to switches before fully securing assembly to door panel. Once plugged into harness, secure philips screw on bottom clamp which holds switch assembly in place. Plug in the white conn to the same main harness conn your old harness plugged into. Leave the other modified plug hanging until you run your new harness. Leave door panels off until everything is wired, so you can access wiring if you need to troubleshoot a problem. Same on ps.

10. Run your new harness from ps to ds. Use a heavy wire with a loop in the end or even a tape measure and fish it thru from the ds, behind the heater assembly to the ps and then behind the blower motor housing. Tape your new harness to this and pull it thru to the ds. Loosely secure in place, for now. Make your connections from the new harness ends to the modified door harness connectors. If you use modular connectors such as Molex ones, like I did, this part is made simple.

11. Connect your new 12V power supply from interior fuse block(conn M-4, pin-out 10P) to your two wires for pwr mirr and heat circuits. See pic explaining this.

12. Mount new generic mirror heat switch, and connect wires. Now, I wanted to use one of the 3 switch blank plates on the left side of the dash, but couldn't remove it. So, I ended up drilling a hole just to the right of these (see pic) and mounted it there. Not what I wanted, but looks OK, to me.

13. Double check all your connections. Turn ignition to ACC and test operation of both mirrors and heat. The mirrors will become warm within just a couple of minutes. If all works as it should, button up the panels and secure harness with wire ties.

14. Almost forgot.......after all that work......you deserve an adult beverage!!


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1. Mirror Removal 1


2. Mirror Removal 2


3. SE Power Mirror Back View


4. Door Panel Removal


5. Front Door Harness and Switch


6. Door Harness and Actuator Cables


7. Door Actuator Plug Removal


8. New Power Mirror Harness


9. SE Door Harness Modification


10. Fuse Box Wiring



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1. New mirror wiring schematic and parts list


2. Mirror door switch schematic


3. Mirror heat schematic


4. Fuse block schematic


5. SE door harness connector layout
 

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Hey I helped post it! LOL
good article though. Getting almost JetTech on us. LOL
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Yeah.....almost JetTech, but not quite....lol! He's the master....I'm not worthy enough to shine his tools. :lol:
 

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Thank the Good Lord I bought an LE!!! 8O
 

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RockyMtnTitan I think you do own the World Record for the Longest post in history. LOL
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I hear ya TitanHauler.......if I only knew then what I know now! Whodathunk it would take so much effort to upgrade to pwr mirrors....not me, that's for sure!

So M4ck.......do I win a prize for the longest post?? Maybe that nice set of JBA pipes......that'd be just fine with me! :D
 

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How long did it take for you to get the parts? Man it has been 3 weeks since I ordered, and the dealer still hasn't received the last wiring kit. I got the mirrors on, it works just like a manual, but I need them wires to put power on them.
 

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How long did it take for you to get the parts? Man it has been 3 weeks since I ordered, and the dealer still hasn't received the last wiring kit. I got the mirrors on, it works just like a manual, but I need them wires to put power on them.
I ordered my window switch, finisher plate and door harnesses from nissanpartsdistributor.com and I think it took close to a month to get everything, as a couple items were on backorder.
 

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Glad to hear ya got-r-done! :D It's a little work, but worth the effort.
 

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That new harness took me a while, but it was very professionaly. That cable I had to put on the fuse box, I used the one from the old harness, it was cool because it was just a pop-in thing, very neat! I love the way it came out at the end, everything stowed neately and the connections where great. I cannot stress enough how great your instrutions were.
Thanks for posting this! I could have never done this by myself.

Did you ordered the switch for the heater? I left the conections stowed inside the dash, but ready to put on the switch, just heve to get it now.
 

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Thanks.....always glad to help. :D
 

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Just got finished installing passendger side mirror that i busted. Thought it was going to be easy at 1st but didn't realize i was going to have to remove door panel to hook up control wire. I'm deffinetly not a mechanic so i ran accross Club Titan and found your instructions for removing door panel very helpful. I didn't break anything or even say one bad word through the whole process. the only problem i ran into was getting wiring out of the way of electric window. I almost snatched wiring with it 1 time. thanks again for excellent instuctions!! :D
 

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BUD said:
Just got finished installing passendger side mirror that i busted. Thought it was going to be easy at 1st but didn't realize i was going to have to remove door panel to hook up control wire. I'm deffinetly not a mechanic so i ran accross Club Titan and found your instructions for removing door panel very helpful. I didn't break anything or even say one bad word through the whole process. the only problem i ran into was getting wiring out of the way of electric window. I almost snatched wiring with it 1 time. thanks again for excellent instuctions!! :D
Glad it helped ya out....and Welcome to the Club!
 

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I wanted to do the BT mirrors for the lower mirror noticed the TT guys saying it eliminates blind spots. Plus it looks nicer imo. Need to get on this. Hella thanks man :thumbsup:

then I need to de-chrome it, hopefully paint match it along with the rear bumper the XE double din bezel and maybe a Stillen grille if I get that too.

Is the 05 CC XE the same? no plug and play?

wonder if there's an SE or LE at the salvage yard. I'm heading there saturday for some focus parts anyway. Guess I'll see if I can get the harness and switching all at once with mirrors mwahaahaaahaaaaa. (fingers crossed to see an LE or SE.) might need to figure other things to pull like a tow hitch. I need to write this all down.
 

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I wanted to do the BT mirrors for the lower mirror noticed the TT guys saying it eliminates blind spots. Plus it looks nicer imo. Need to get on this. Hella thanks man :thumbsup:

then I need to de-chrome it, hopefully paint match it along with the rear bumper the XE double din bezel and maybe a Stillen grille if I get that too.

Is the 05 CC XE the same? no plug and play?

wonder if there's an SE or LE at the salvage yard. I'm heading there saturday for some focus parts anyway. Guess I'll see if I can get the harness and switching all at once with mirrors mwahaahaaahaaaaa. (fingers crossed to see an LE or SE.) might need to figure other things to pull like a tow hitch. I need to write this all down.
I'm pretty sure you're gonna find no difference between the '04/'05 wiring harnesses on the XE.

DO NOT buy LE mirrors....they will not work....the wiring harness and connectors are different than the SE mirrors because of the memory function. I found my SE Non-BT mirrors on ebay brand new for $152/set. I've seen the BT's on ebay, as well.

Good luck!
 

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Make sure you follow RockyMountain's instruction carefully on the part that you have to make a harness, that's the most impotant part.
 

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How abouth i pay one of you guys that know how to put power mirrors/windows/locks, to do it for me.or if you know a place anywhere in Cali that does this kind of stuff tell me, because i been looking all over the place, and this is to complicated for me to do it myself. if anyone is interested and know how to do it. let me know i'am offering $500 dolares , and if you think this is not enough let me know what you want and lets talk abouth it, and of course I will buy all the parts necessary plus the Coronas. I have a kc xe.
I'am in Cali
email me if you think you are up to the challenge

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How abouth i pay one of you guys that know how to put power mirrors/windows/locks, to do it for me.or if you know a place anywhere in Cali that does this kind of stuff tell me, because i been looking all over the place, and this is to complicated for me to do it myself. if anyone is interested and know how to do it. let me know i'am offering $500 dolares , and if you think this is not enough let me know what you want and lets talk abouth it, and of course I will buy all the parts necessary plus the Coronas. I have a kc xe.
I'am in Cali
email me if you think you are up to the challenge

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Man, if you were in Colo, I'd do it for you....and for a lot less than $500. Yes, it's quite a bit of work to do the whole deal, incl the heated mirror feature, but for a SOLDIER....you'd definately get the good guy discount...that's for sure, man! C'mon, guys....someone's gotta be close to this soldier who can help him out!
 
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